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Mika

(17,751 posts)
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 06:01 PM Mar 2013

Blogger Yoani Sánchez arrives in Miami


Blogger Yoani Sánchez arrives in Miami
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/28/3312117/yoani-sanchez-arrives-in-miami.html

She wasted no time in sending out a stream of Tweets after her arrival in Miami. Among them:

• “Since I arrived at the airport, I’ve encountered Cubans everywhere. What emotion.’’

Sánchez begins the day Monday with a meeting with The Miami Herald editorial board. From there she’ll head to Miami Dade College’s Freedom Tower where she’ll receive the MDC Presidential Medal for championing human rights and take part in a public conversation with Miami Herald Editorial Page Editor Myriam Marquez. The conversation will be live-streamed on the college website. All 800 tickets to the event have already been distributed.

From there she’ll head to Florida International University for an evening reception and public event.

She also plans some private meetings and will appear at a Tweet Up at the Adrienne Arsht Center for the Performing Arts on Wednesday. She’ll be discussing technology, innovation and social change at the event organized by the Knight Foundation and Roots of Hope. The public will be able to send her questions by tweeting them to #askyoani. Free tickets are available at askyoani.com


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Blogger Yoani Sánchez arrives in Miami (Original Post) Mika Mar 2013 OP
I remember someone published a cable from the U.S. Interest Section to someone in the US, Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #1
Yoani arrived in Miami fresh from a meeting with flamingdem Mar 2013 #2
She's probably aware, but needs someone to pay her way. joshcryer Mar 2013 #4
do you remember or have a link about the usaid money flamingdem Mar 2013 #7
My mistake, I was thinking of Oswaldo Paya. joshcryer Mar 2013 #9
Do you have a link to that cable? joshcryer Mar 2013 #5
Yes, but the younger politically active Cubans (in Cuba) ... Mika Mar 2013 #6
I wish it got more play, it was only reported in Spanish on blogs that I saw flamingdem Mar 2013 #8
They already lament that as activists they don't have much support on the left. joshcryer Mar 2013 #11
I just heard a funny commentary about Eliecer flamingdem Mar 2013 #12
Where did you hear that? joshcryer Mar 2013 #14
What prime time viewing? The time he spoke with Alarcon? flamingdem Mar 2013 #15
Well, I shouldn't give the false impression that I think they matter. joshcryer Mar 2013 #23
Have to agree, the story is more about the use of technology flamingdem Mar 2013 #26
I have no doubt it'll be on state media. joshcryer Mar 2013 #10
Oh, no. I just pulled it out of my ass. By the way, I said "dissidents," not "dissident bloggers." Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #18
Not sure if you're serious. joshcryer Mar 2013 #19
Here's a DU post regarding that cable: Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #21
Link to the link: Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #22
Thanks, that clears it up. It's dissidents Washington supports. joshcryer Mar 2013 #24
She's been touring the world. joshcryer Mar 2013 #3
I will add that she really is a phenomenon and it's quite a media show going on flamingdem Mar 2013 #17
She claims she doesn't want to be a political player. joshcryer Mar 2013 #20
"She also plans some private meetings...". Kaching! Peace Patriot Mar 2013 #13
ha ha ha! Payment time. So far the usaid funding hasn't been cut much flamingdem Mar 2013 #16
Rubio had to have told her to say that. joshcryer Mar 2013 #25
She saw the light after meeting with Rubio and Menendez flamingdem Mar 2013 #27

Judi Lynn

(160,451 posts)
1. I remember someone published a cable from the U.S. Interest Section to someone in the US,
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:56 PM
Mar 2013

saying the "dissidents" they'd been supporting for ages in Cuba were getting to be a bunch of old guys and no one really seemed to pay much attention to them any more.

I wonder if hearing that was like an icy hand gripping their hearts, anyway. I have wondered since then if they haven't cut back paying the old timers for their work for them, since they don't think they are "relative" any longer.

I can't believe there are many real Cubans who pay much attention to this one, either, although it appears in the U.S. someone is going to the trouble of wringing every bit of propaganda value they can get from her while the getting is good.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
2. Yoani arrived in Miami fresh from a meeting with
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 10:46 PM
Mar 2013

Otto Reich, Frank Calzone, Marco Rubio and a host of other right wing cretins. I wonder if she knows much about US politics?

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
4. She's probably aware, but needs someone to pay her way.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:40 PM
Mar 2013

Question is when she returns to Cuba what is going to happen to her for accepting money used on her trip? She probably won't come back with a suitcase full of money, but she definitely is getting her trip paid for by suspect sources. I think the Cuban government is OK with it for now because when she returns they'll use it against her to discredit her (like they did with the USAID money that ... paid for her hotel last time she came). Cuban state media should have ammo for a decade against her after this tour (pictures of her next to, shaking hands with, or otherwise in the presence of right wingers).

But what can you do.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
9. My mistake, I was thinking of Oswaldo Paya.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:42 AM
Mar 2013

When he went to a university to speak he got going around money, which is clearly horrible (nevermind Castro's daughter did a US tour and her way was paid, etc).

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
5. Do you have a link to that cable?
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:42 PM
Mar 2013

Most of the dissident bloggers are young. Operation Cyber-Mambi was specifically targeting youthful Cubans because access to information tends to be a youthful thing, as we can see with the Arab Spring and OWS.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
6. Yes, but the younger politically active Cubans (in Cuba) ...
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:32 AM
Mar 2013

... all know who Otto Reich, Frank Calzone, Marco Rubio, la Loba, & the Diaz blowhard brothers are. Yoani rubbing elbows with those cretins will go over like a turd in the punchbowl.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
8. I wish it got more play, it was only reported in Spanish on blogs that I saw
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:34 AM
Mar 2013

but her meeting with Rubio and Menendez was everywhere.. supposedly Menendez being a Dem makes everything okay dokay..

I hope that US Latinos are cynical about her, she does have a large following among exiles and those who left the island

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
11. They already lament that as activists they don't have much support on the left.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:47 AM
Mar 2013

So they are aware of it and it's clear that they're being shunned because they're slandered as counter revolutionaries.

I think people like Eliecer Avila scare the status quo which is why they're slandered as such.

(No reasonable person could listen to Eliecer Avila's criticisms; which aired on Cuban state TV, btw, as anything but revolutionary language.)

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
12. I just heard a funny commentary about Eliecer
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:56 AM
Mar 2013

He's not even known in the tiny town he hails from and now he's threatening to form a political party.. the guy is a nut why does he think they'd care about him? These dissidents are about collecting money nothing much more.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
15. What prime time viewing? The time he spoke with Alarcon?
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:14 AM
Mar 2013

These bloggers and dissidents have no base and no power, they only enjoy the money for their trips and payment from the US, Czech, usaid and a few other sources. They preach to the choir and some naive people who think they matter, but they don't matter in Cuba and most Cubans haven't heard of them.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
23. Well, I shouldn't give the false impression that I think they matter.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:38 AM
Mar 2013

I don't think that they matter that much, I think that the technology they're utilizing is what matters, and it's only a matter of time before more Cubans have access to it.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
26. Have to agree, the story is more about the use of technology
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:00 PM
Mar 2013

and in this case how one can become a cause celebre and not even be known in ones home town or be able to rally a diaspora.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
10. I have no doubt it'll be on state media.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:45 AM
Mar 2013

And it'll be interesting to see what happens when Eliecer Avila returns and forms a political party in Cuba as well as how the Cuban government reacts to Yoani opening an media outlet.

Judi Lynn

(160,451 posts)
18. Oh, no. I just pulled it out of my ass. By the way, I said "dissidents," not "dissident bloggers."
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:19 AM
Mar 2013

From everything I've seen so far, the "dissidents" who've been sucking up the lion's share of money forked over to them from the non-consulted U.S. taxpayers have been doing business and calling it "dissent" for years and years.

Judi Lynn

(160,451 posts)
21. Here's a DU post regarding that cable:
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:34 AM
Mar 2013

Cable Shows Nations Going Easy on Cuba
By MARK LANDLER
Published: December 17, 2010

WASHINGTON — Cuba is getting a free pass on its human rights abuses from many of the world’s leading democracies, with visitors from Canada, Australia, Switzerland and the European Union failing to criticize the Castro regime or meet with dissidents while on the island, according to a confidential diplomatic cable sent to the State Department from Havana.

The cable, transmitted in November 2009 and signed by Jonathan D. Farrar, the top American diplomat in Cuba, hinted that there were economic motives behind the accommodating approach. But if so, the cable concluded that these countries were not getting much of a payoff.

The rewards for acquiescing to Cuban sensitivities, it said, are “risible: pomp-full dinners and meetings, and for the most pliant, a photo-op with one of the Castro brothers.”

The cable added, “In terms of substance or economic benefits they fare little better than those who stand up to” the government.

And yet, in a cable sent six months earlier, the United States Interest Section in Havana also lamented that the Cuban dissidents supported by Washington for decades were old, out of touch and so split by internecine squabbles that the United States should look elsewhere for future leaders.

More:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/18/world/americas/18wikileaks-cuba.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss&

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
24. Thanks, that clears it up. It's dissidents Washington supports.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:40 AM
Mar 2013

Not the bloggers and other dissidents who don't get direct material support from Washington (they might, but not in a way that would be traceable).

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
3. She's been touring the world.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 11:33 PM
Mar 2013

I do find it interesting that her arrival in Miami is notable.

She was followed by protesters in Brazil.

I doubt she'll have significant protesters in Miami though, it should be rather well orchestrated.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
17. I will add that she really is a phenomenon and it's quite a media show going on
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:18 AM
Mar 2013

however she doensn't have a base in Cuba and it's all for show since she's not a serious political player, just a celeb.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
16. ha ha ha! Payment time. So far the usaid funding hasn't been cut much
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:16 AM
Mar 2013

and why else did she meet with all those pro embargo politicians, why did she start saying that now she thinks the embargo shouldn't be lifted without this and that and a loooong debate. the longer the debate the more ch ching! $$$

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
25. Rubio had to have told her to say that.
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 02:42 AM
Mar 2013

Which is preposterous since she has been against the embargo all this time. What a truly foolish thing of her to say.

I wonder what she got for changing her tune.

(Let's be realistic, it's not cash in hand, but it could be material support with the news website she wants to set up.)

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
27. She saw the light after meeting with Rubio and Menendez
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 01:01 PM
Mar 2013

The cha ching for her new digital newspaper is controlled by interests in the US gusano community.

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