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Mika

(17,751 posts)
Fri May 3, 2013, 04:59 PM May 2013

Judge Rules Cuban 5 Spy can stay in Cuba, will lose citizenship


Spy can stay in Cuba, will lose citizenship
http://networkedblogs.com/KTv8m

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Convicted agent Rene Gonzalez no longer must serve the rest of his parole in the United States as he renounces his American citizenship and never returns to the U.S, a judge ruled Friday.
The judge's order is below :
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6Mo1c2bIFLWR01yb2RIendUYk0/edit






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Judge Rules Cuban 5 Spy can stay in Cuba, will lose citizenship (Original Post) Mika May 2013 OP
that's good flamingdem May 2013 #1
IMO, he shouldn't do this because the others are still in jail. joshcryer May 2013 #4
That's amazing. joshcryer May 2013 #2
I thought I saw the order bars him from returning to the US n/t Bacchus4.0 May 2013 #3
Yeah, thanks, I hadn't read the order. joshcryer May 2013 #5
Cuban spy renouncing US citizenship Mika May 2013 #6
Love that photo of Rene Gonzalez and his daughter. At least he's going home. Judi Lynn May 2013 #8
Why was he put on probation in the first place? Daniel537 May 2013 #7

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
4. IMO, he shouldn't do this because the others are still in jail.
Fri May 3, 2013, 07:24 PM
May 2013

He'd have more impact if he came back and was to campaign for their release.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
2. That's amazing.
Fri May 3, 2013, 07:19 PM
May 2013

So he can renounce and still travel to the US without serving the rest of his parole?

My assumption was that if he reniged on his parole it'd harm his ability to travel to and fro from the island and that's why I thought he wouldn't do that.

Is he planning to do that?

edit: sorry I didn't read the ruling, that's really interesting, so he never plans to come back to the US? IMO that's a shame because he can come back and campaign for the release of the others. :/

Either way it goes it's good that the court here found this very reasonable judgment. They can get it right.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
5. Yeah, thanks, I hadn't read the order.
Fri May 3, 2013, 07:25 PM
May 2013

It's a very specific order but this surprises me since he should come back and campaign for the release of the others (who I believe were legitimately found guilty but their sentences were far too harsh given their intent).

(note: I edited my post btw)

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
6. Cuban spy renouncing US citizenship
Mon May 6, 2013, 07:16 PM
May 2013

Cuban spy renouncing US citizenship
http://news.yahoo.com/cuban-spy-renouncing-us-citizenship-200656549.html

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HAVANA (AP) — A Cuban spy who served a long jail term in the United States has arrived at the U.S. diplomatic mission in Havana to renounce his American citizenship.
The move by Rene Gonzalez is part of a deal by Federal Judge Joan Lenard to allow him to stay in Cuba rather than complete the probation he was serving in the U.S.
Gonzalez arrived Monday afternoon at the U.S. Interests Section, which Washington maintains instead of an embassy

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Judi Lynn

(160,415 posts)
8. Love that photo of Rene Gonzalez and his daughter. At least he's going home.
Tue May 7, 2013, 04:45 PM
May 2013

I'm sure nothing that happened to them here surprised any of them in the least, after the great shock of having the FBI ignore their gathered information they brought them so long ago, from their investigation of the "exile" terrorists who'd been terrorizing national Cubans, only to be suddenly attacked and arrested when they were back at home, then tried in a court filled with "exile" terrorists from South Florida, sitting and sneering at them from the audience.

Talk about a large scale betrayal, that had to be among the worst they could have ever imagined. No wonder the first appeals court overturned the verdict, and what a shame the prosecutor went shopping until the States got a finding which finally kept them in prison, anyway.

Very dirty dealings, which should have been below the standards of a U.S. American court, as we used to believe they were.

Rene Gonzalez has conducted himself from the first like a national hero. He has friends and admirers all over the world.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
7. Why was he put on probation in the first place?
Tue May 7, 2013, 09:20 AM
May 2013

He completed 85% of his sentence when he was released in 2011, so that was just another punitive measure made to punish the guy even more. The US govt. has been unbelievably cruel and vindictive in the case of the Five.

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