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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
Sat May 4, 2013, 02:44 AM May 2013

Correa Rejects US Interference in Ecuador, FM asks Washington to review its own human rights conduct

Correa Rejects US Interference in Ecuador

Quito, May 3 (Prensa Latina) Today Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa rejected the US government's interference in matters that are only Ecuador's responsibility.

He also dismissed criticism by Freedom House which places Ecuador on a list of countries with little freedom of the press, and described that institution as an organization of the U.S. extreme right.

This week a spokesman for the U.S. State Department, Patrick Ventrell, asked Ecuador to maintain freedom of the press as a component of a democratic society and provide security to journalists. Ventrell made particular reference to three opposition journalists who allegedly received "harsh personal attacks and discredit attempts".

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Correa also recalled that in Ecuador there is no death penalty like in other countries that claim to defend human rights, and said that if Washington asks to protect the three journalists, he will ask the United States to protect the life of the soldier Bradley Manning.

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For his part, Ecuadorian Foreign Minister Ricardo Patiño called absurd and disrespectful the statement made by the spokesman of the US State Department and asked Washington to review its human rights conduct.

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http://www.prensa-latina.cu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1375921&Itemid=2

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Correa Rejects US Interference in Ecuador, FM asks Washington to review its own human rights conduct (Original Post) Catherina May 2013 OP
What the right refuses to admit is that the owners of Latin American newspapers Judi Lynn May 2013 #1
Good for correa newfie11 May 2013 #2
Gitmo Gitmo Gitmo Gitmo Gitmo. bemildred May 2013 #3
Do as I say you , not as I do. bahrbearian May 2013 #4
Correa is not only intolerant of criticism in Ecuador Zorro May 2013 #5
LOL ocpagu May 2013 #7
I take it from your LOL Zorro May 2013 #8
What you call "free press"... ocpagu May 2013 #9
Call it whatever you want Zorro May 2013 #10
And I hope he continues to do that. ocpagu May 2013 #11
I daresay you would sing a different tune Zorro May 2013 #12
They were prosecuted... ocpagu May 2013 #13
Wrong. They were prosecuted because they called Correa a "dictator" Zorro May 2013 #14
Nope. Nothing to do with the word "dictator". ocpagu May 2013 #15
People were killed as a result of Correa's arrogance Zorro May 2013 #16
Cut the crap. ocpagu May 2013 #17
Bless you for even attempting to speak to something this bizarre. Judi Lynn May 2013 #18
Feeling dumber obviously is a recurring state for you Zorro May 2013 #20
Are you disputing that Correa did not invite the police to take a shot at him? Zorro May 2013 #19
What Freedumb House means by "free speech" is no speech for the many, Peace Patriot May 2013 #6

Judi Lynn

(160,523 posts)
1. What the right refuses to admit is that the owners of Latin American newspapers
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:26 AM
May 2013

are the ones favored by the fascist who ran the countries with US complete support and backing, squashing their leftist prey like bugs all these many, MANY years. Those organs of communication were complicit in the complete whitewashing of crimes after crimes after crimes against humanity, against genocide, against torture, while mangling the truth daily, and keeping ALL reference to anything beyond right-wing propaganda completely out of sight and out of mind.

These journalistic imposters are the criminals themselves.

There is no mystery here other than how long this charade can go on without these people getting called on their treachery, and put out of business. They are not journalists, they are weapons against the people of Latin America. Look at what they've done to them already.

A-holes.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. Gitmo Gitmo Gitmo Gitmo Gitmo.
Sat May 4, 2013, 09:20 AM
May 2013

And that's just one of many. End the American Gulags and then we can talk.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
5. Correa is not only intolerant of criticism in Ecuador
Sat May 4, 2013, 01:09 PM
May 2013

he's also intolerant of foreign criticism of his efforts to muzzle the free press.

The difference is that he can't prosecute foreign critics as he can his domestic critics.

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
11. And I hope he continues to do that.
Sun May 5, 2013, 11:16 PM
May 2013

Why shouldn't he? I ignore a single reason to believe media companies should be above the law.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
12. I daresay you would sing a different tune
Sun May 5, 2013, 11:30 PM
May 2013

if you were prosecuted for criticizing your government.

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
13. They were prosecuted...
Sun May 5, 2013, 11:58 PM
May 2013

... because they falsely accused Correa of committing crimes. Injury, defamation and calumny are crimes in most countries ruled by the Civil Law - including Ecuador.

Nothing to do with "criticism".

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
15. Nope. Nothing to do with the word "dictator".
Mon May 6, 2013, 12:11 AM
May 2013

That's the part you insist in ignoring:

"El Dictador debería recordar, por último, y esto es muy importante, que con el indulto, en el futuro, un nuevo presidente, quizás enemigo suyo, podría llevarlo ante una corte penal por haber ordenado fuego a discreción y sin previo aviso contra un hospital lleno de civiles y gente inocente."

"The dictator should remember, by last, and this is very important, that with the indult, in the future, a new president, possibly a personal enemy of his, could take him to a criminal court for having ordered, with discretion and without warning, opening fire against a hospital full of civilians and innocents."

The newspaper accused Correa, without any proof, of ordering the murder of civilians.

That is a crime.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
16. People were killed as a result of Correa's arrogance
Mon May 6, 2013, 12:57 AM
May 2013

He went before an assembly of police and called them crooks and thieves, ripped open his shirt, bared his chest, and dared them to shoot him. And then when they took him up on his challenge, he retreated to a hospital to be rescued by a commando team who shot their way into and out of the facility.

The culpability of Correa's actions in the deaths of civilians caught in the crossfire is something he wants to avoid airing in public, and why he prosecuted the press over these allegations. It prevents him having to answer to the public, and gives him time to obscure any evidence of his responsibility.

It's also why there's the ongoing historical revisionism to declare the events a US-supported "coup". That lame attempt at misdirection also takes the heat off Correa, so that he can continue to be promoted as an enlightened leader by the usual motormouths.

Correa clearly is incapable of handling press criticism, and thus suppresses press criticism. That's not a hallmark of democracy; it's an example of a dictator.

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
17. Cut the crap.
Mon May 6, 2013, 01:14 AM
May 2013

You're not going anywhere with this bullshit of blaming Correa for the consequences of a coup attempt AGAINST him... there's nothing more disgusting than blaming the victim.

The newspaper accused him of ordering fire against civilians. That's a very grave accusation, and they had absolutely NOTHING, nothing to back their statement on courts. They were prosecuted. They lost.

Pretty much a regular process. There's absolutely nothing "dictatorial" about it. At least, not for those who understand that in a true democracy media COMPANIES have to obey the law, as any other individuals and companies. Those who think corporatocracy is the best form of government, of course, will defend privileges for companies - such as impunity when they commit crimes.

Judi Lynn

(160,523 posts)
18. Bless you for even attempting to speak to something this bizarre.
Mon May 6, 2013, 02:48 AM
May 2013

Clearly, a conservative faction feels it is fine if it wants to spin astounding lies, smears, vicious gossip, and there should be no way to interfere with their crimes.

How that event EVER got twisted into the circus described regarding the hospital is inconceivable. No one, even the bad spinners could ever believe that ####. No one anywhere is that stupid.

I feel even dumber for having read it!

Thank you for your comments.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
20. Feeling dumber obviously is a recurring state for you
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:50 AM
May 2013

You certainly express it repeatedly in your posts.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
19. Are you disputing that Correa did not invite the police to take a shot at him?
Mon May 6, 2013, 09:47 AM
May 2013

There were plenty of eyewitnesses to those events, whether you care to accept those facts or not. A serious investigation would have revealed Correa's own culpability in the matters, which is why he chose the alternative path to prosecute the press instead.

Correa is no model politician, just another prickly pipsqueak who cannot abide criticism. Even his own brother thinks he sucks.

Speaking of bullshit, coup groupies -- "Coupies" -- find a US boogeyman behind every political conflict in Latin America with no evidence whatsoever. Doesn't stop them from repeating that unsupported twaddle at every opportunity.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
6. What Freedumb House means by "free speech" is no speech for the many,
Sun May 5, 2013, 03:07 AM
May 2013

and all speech for the corpo-fascists, plus the 'freedom' to riot, murder and overthrow the government.

I have to laugh when these corpo-fascist institutions cry "free speech." When RCTV, Globovision and the Venezuelan fascists kidnapped Venezuela's elected president, Hugo Chavez, and suspended the Constitution, the courts, the National Assembly and all civil rights, THEY ALSO FORBADE MEMBERS OF CHAVEZ'S GOVERNMENT FROM SPEAKING ON TV!

No speech for the many. Not even the government, which speaks for the many, may speak. All speech for the corpo-fascists.

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