Maduro to Capriles: "you little fags, bourgeois and fascists think you can give lessons

[ChangoLoa]

to the people"

You little fags and fascists in the same sentence... pure chavismo.

http://www.eluniversal.com/nacional-y-politica/11-de-abril/120412/canciller-maduro-llama-sifrinitos-y-fascistas-a-dirigentes-opositores

Capriles as a gay, nazi, gringo little insect.

[pschoeb]

1. Sifrinitos doesn't mean gay

It means a stuck up idle rich person

[pschoeb]

2. Ok so he did say mariconcitos as well which does mean gay

I guess that paper didn't care about that, because it's not in the title like sifrinitos and fascitas are.

[ChangoLoa]

5. I care a bit more about the homophobic politician than about the incomplete title of the paper

This was on all national tvs, public or private, and I put the link in order to back up what I heard because, otherwise, some would have thought this didn't happen.

[Bluenorthwest]

3. Who are these people, and what is the meaning of the slur in this context?

Translating some slurs and nothing else is an interesting choice.

[ChangoLoa]

4. Maduro is Veneuela's foreign minister, Capriles is the opposition's candidate

And we've been talking about these issues in this forum for a while so I thought it didn't need more explanations.

So, to resume, it's been a harsh campaign of smear against Capriles
because he is supposedly :
1. A gay (according to the federal police, he was caught some years ago in a car with another man doing something sexual. Of course the police didn't issue this repport until Capriles won the opposition's primaries and became a candidate for the presidence)
2. A zionist (his grandmother was a jew, see?)

[Bluenorthwest]

6. Sorry, I'm not up on all of the ugly anti gay cultural memes of the day....

The title of you post is striking, and it was on the Latest, as all posts do go there. The link is in Spanish, and my Spanish is not good enough to read it. I do know that the title of the article does not really say 'fag' so much as 'rich jerk' if I am not mistaken....

[EFerrari]

9. I'll try to run this down today

when my connection speed improves. It sounds weird because the Chavez government marches in Pride every year and is a supporter of the Reformed Catholic Church which welcomes GLBTQ folks.

It may be true that this guy is an ass, though, just as it may be true that El Universal is just doing its right wing rag thing and that the four or five supporters of that thing in this forum are trying to capitalize on it. I'll have to find out.

[Bacchus4.0]

15. let us know when you got the "real" story from the homophobic minister

such a progressive government isn't it?

[Bacchus4.0]

16. looks like he's just an ass and not "el Universal right wing rag thing" you tube link

hope your connection speed improves soon.

[ChangoLoa]

18. No hay peor ciego que el que no quiere ver.

[EFerrari]

19. Why don't you people read my post again?

Good grief. There's none so blind as those who will not see, indeed, unless it's those who cannot read.

What a waste of time and bandwidth.

[Bacchus4.0]

20. I for one read your post, I do not find Moreno's suprising at all. the Chavez gov has a history

of making vile remarks so Moreno's remarks should come as a surprise to only those who choose not to see.

[ChangoLoa]

22. Oh come on... you just came here to say "I doubt this is true", as you have always done.

But thanks for your usual contribution.

[ChangoLoa]

23. So now that you could verify in the video that this were the exact words by Maduro

Would you care to tell us what you think of it?

(it's a bit curious that you talk about a waste of bandwidth... try to notice that after your buffer posts we reach the exact same point where the conversation originally started)

So, maybe we're lucky this time and get an opinion/idea/argument from you?

[spanza]

28. What do you expect from them?

Chavistas and/or castristas

1. Applaud black lists by which millions of non political administrative workers are ostracized
2. Have applauded reeducation camps for gays
3. Are not even able to say "I disagree" when shown a clear act of homophobic hatred, such as this one.

Worshipers in this forum will never criticize ANYTHING coming from their ideological employers - let it be racist (Capriles is a zionist), homophobic (Capriles is a mariconsote) or any other form of hatred. I guess they must be confortable with this kind of language.

Conclusion: they place their loyalty to a particular system of power above their priciples concerning racism, homophobia, etc.
They would only circonstancially fight discrimination => they are mas falso que billete de treinta (faker than a 30 dollar bill) and their principles are based on nothing more than pseudo-values.

[joshcryer]

13. The OP did not post the title of the article.

I think that's what's confusing you. The OP is posting the most despicable word used in the title of his OP because it's fucking fucked up.

We constantly get accused here of using bad sources (right wing sources, I was called a wing nut in fact in this very forum for posting factual information). This is why I wait to post shit until I have a direct fucking source. Fuck the vile haters here who aren't following Venezuela as closely as others. The guy said a really vile thing and diminishing it or dismissing it is bullshit.

I posted the video down thread.

Bacchus4.0 posts the exact quote.

[joshcryer]

10. "fag" is a direct translation. The context is a Presidential candidate...

...who is single and hasn't really expressed his sexuality is being called a "faggot."

It is quite common with Chavistas (just look at any of the comment sections on the Lat Am news sites that mention Capriles; Google translate will suffice).

[Bacchus4.0]

7. wouldn't mariconsotes mean big fags? such a classy guy, such a dignified administration

Así será la calaña de estos sifrinitos, mariconsotes, fascistas que pretenden dar lecciones al pueblo de Venezuela

[joshcryer]

12. Have you seen the comment sections on Capriles articles? YouTube videos?

Haters, pro-Chavez people, they call him all sorts of very hateful things, from he's feminine to he's gay.

They hate the idea of a gay President.

[spanza]

8. Not surprising. Even in this forum I remember

one of its most regular chavista posters who was making fun of Santos because he uses eyeliner and hasn't made his coming out yet. Independently of how much I dislike the Colombian right wing, I firmly despise those homophobic scumbags who pretend to be leftists.

I wonder if they applaud at the gay reeducation camps that the Castros created in 1970's Cuba.

So Maduro and that poster who'll recognize herself should spend sometime in the wannabe-progressives-purgatory. Long way to go.

[joshcryer]

14. Do you happen to have a link to that post?

Last edited Fri Oct 5, 2012, 03:06 AM - Edit history (1)

It may fit in fact with the dismissive attitudes I'm seeing here.

edit: several months later when I decided to look for it: found that post: http://sync.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=405x37382

[spanza]

27. The old forum

Where's it gone?

[joshcryer]

11. Video, fucking shameful, like a teabagger rally:

[ChangoLoa]

17. This is an offense that is punished under Venezuelan law

He won't be punished by a court, though. The least he could do is to resign. But he won't. He's above law and ethics, and won't do anything more than to apologize... as a maximum.

[Bacchus4.0]

21. yep, if Hillary said that she would probably have to resign, and rightly so n/t

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[joshcryer]

24. What did I say? Like a teabagger rally...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101499172

[ChangoLoa]

26. Chavistas attack the jews, the gays and pretend to be progressive.

Capriles' grandma was jewish so, now, for them, "the ennemy is zionism", remember the article they wrote a couple of months ago?

[ChangoLoa]

25. Maduro says he's sorry if his words hurt someone and that he "respects all human beings"

Maduro se disculpa por sus palabras sobre la comunidad sexodiversa

http://www.eluniversal.com/nacional-y-politica/11-de-abril/120416/maduro-se-disculpa-por-sus-palabras-sobre-la-comunidad-sexodiversa



"you big fags, bourgeois and fascists think you can give lessons to the people"