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Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 03:29 PM Nov 2013

Honduras: Elections offer chance of turning point for country with world's highest murder rate

Honduras: Elections offer chance of turning point for country with world's highest murder rate
05 Nov 2013, 11:30am

Amnesty International has issued a stark warning to the presidential candidates in the upcoming Honduran elections – commit to human rights now or risk deepening the country’s humanitarian crisis.

According to the United Nations, Honduras has the world’s highest homicide rate of 92 per 100,000. The country is also plagued by escalating levels of violence, insecurity and impunity. Human rights defenders are among those most at risk.

Amnesty has written to all eight presidential candidates ahead of elections on 24 November detailing the human rights crisis in the country and urging them to set out their commitment to human rights.

The letter asks them to commit to: comprehensive protection of human rights defenders; strengthening the justice system and the rule of law; eradicating impunity for human rights abuses; and ensuring justice and reparation for victims of human rights violations, in particular for those individuals and groups who are particularly vulnerable.

More:
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/honduras-elections-offer-chance-turning-point-country-worlds-highest-murder-rate

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Paolo123

(297 posts)
1. I used to think that the US and it's RW allies wanted order
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 04:33 PM
Nov 2013

That, deep down they wanted order, but just had no tolerance for those opposed to them. The more I look at it though I think that disorder is actually the goal as it is through disorder that aid/military/security budgets get increased and also resources are able to be stolen.

Just take a look at Mexico. It's almost impossible to believe that the sudden ratcheting up of the violence ever since the increased US involvement is a side-affect as opposed to it being the actual goal.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
2. what was the increased involvement by the US?
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 05:46 PM
Nov 2013

that caused this violence in Mexico? WHat is the cause in Venezuela? A country that makes Mexico look tame whose government has no tolerance for those opposed to them.

If disorder and violence were the goal the US would be funding the FARC rather than the government, and supporting the chavista administration.

 

Paolo123

(297 posts)
3. What does this have to do with Venezuela?
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 07:56 PM
Nov 2013

As for Mexico, there was MASSIVE increased involvement by the US:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9rida_Initiative

Notice how drug war murders EXPLODED as soon as the Marida Intiative was funded:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File rug-War_Related_Murders_in_Mexico_2006-2011.png

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
5. You're right, nothing to do with Venezuela whatsoever. Typical.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:29 PM
Nov 2013

Anyone who hasn't been in a coma since Calderon was "elected" saw the hideous shift in violence leap to life as soon as George W. Bush started making new deals with him to accept U.S. military "help" with Mexico's "drug problem."

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Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
6. no causation between US involvement and the level of drug violence as you implied
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:05 PM
Nov 2013

and violence in Colombia has significantly decreased with plenty of US involvement. You are just speculating. The drug war policy itself is another matter.

 

Paolo123

(297 posts)
8. looking just at Mexico for a second:
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:04 PM
Nov 2013

If you really think it is pure coincidence that violence exploded right when the US got involved, well, that can't be disputed really. There is no way to prove it one way or another.

I'm curious why you think it might have suddenly just exploded, however.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
9. Funding for some aircraft, judicial reform, human rights training and such
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:46 AM
Nov 2013

Little direct funding for military. Perhaps they should follow Plan Colombia more close and provide direct military funding since, as far as violence goes, Colombia has seen a large decrease. Your second link goes nowhere.

Your claim of US involvement and increase in murders is pure speculation. And I do not even support an aggressive drug war policy. Marijuana should be legalized. NOW!!

 

Paolo123

(297 posts)
10. I think there is a lot more than that
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 09:49 AM
Nov 2013

It seems there are a lot of advisors and such directing an aggressive war on drugs, as well as indications that they are choosing one side. But anyway there is no way to prove this, it is just what I infer.

Judi Lynn

(160,516 posts)
4. The US has always supported the right-wing oligarchy in the Americas.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:23 PM
Nov 2013

Right-wingers are focused on hoarding and keeping the wealth, they produce the filthy candidates.

Leftists always attempt to return the power to the people, which is strictly unacceptable to the filthy oligarchs who have controlled the power and wealth, and it's unacceptable to the U.S. to have countries considering the interests of their people first, rather than the interests of US-based corporations and the U.S. political expectations of retaining control of the Americas. EVERYONE knows this, even the scummy right-wing message board trolls.

This is so simple even a slower-than-normal idiot could grasp it.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
7. Two "leftist" nations in latin america are all about keeping power
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:13 PM
Nov 2013

in Cuba and Venezuela. How is a dictatorship and a wannabe dictatorship returning power to the people? So your simplistic explanation might be good for a slower than normal idiot but not for observant and knowledgeable people.

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