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Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 01:17 PM Apr 2014

Venezuela's violent crime fuels the death business

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/20/us-venezuela-crime-idUSBREA1J0KM20140220


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Grave diggers tell of attacks on mourners by gunmen from the surrounding slums, drug-fueled parties at tombs, and night-time desecration of graves to steal bones for rituals.

Corpses of murder victims are brought in daily, mostly young men gunned down in gang fights.

"Violence is the modern fashion in Venezuela. Not just the killing, but they way they behave around the dead," says Oscar Arias, 50, who has dug graves here for 33 years and recently buried his own nephew, who was shot in a nearby slum.

Arias and the other 44 members of his grave diggers' cooperative are never short of work.

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Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
2. Good lord, that is just dreadful. Some people there seem
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 02:42 PM
Apr 2014

to be turning medieval in their behavior. What happened to consequences for such hideous behavior?

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
3. And back in the US
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 02:54 PM
Apr 2014

The government forces chose to back down from an armed bunch of terrorists.

The govt. backed down because they knew bloodshed was not the answer to the problem.

The Venezuelan government versus their armed terrorists (supported by armchair generals in the US) is having to walk a very fine line given how much terror is supported in Venezuela.

People backing such terror need to be watched, because they are getting out of hand. That's what the NSA should be doing.... watching all the armchair generals here.

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
4. I'm quite certain that you are confused.
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 03:10 PM
Apr 2014

This thread is about violent street crime, not any sort of anti-regime protests.

Or has your conspiratorial mind simply merged the two distinctly different problems? That would just fit so nicely for you, wouldn't it?

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
5. This is really weird.
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 04:51 PM
Apr 2014

The way I read this thread, it is about the out of control violent crime in Venezuela, not a bunch of RW yahoos in Nevada confronting the BLM.
Why are you trying to hijack the thread?

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
6. It's typical Chavista behavior
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 07:30 PM
Apr 2014

Whenever something comes up against the Chavista government that is simply indefensible, they have to try to change the subject. It happens more than often in Venezuela with the big government figures. When they know they're cornered, they try to change the subject to attempt to get out of the pickle they're in.

Judi Lynn

(160,447 posts)
7. The right-wing is trying to take power everywhere. They know how much they are hated.
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 02:14 AM
Apr 2014

It appears they believe they have to make their move now before the people around the world become organized enough.

Who on earth is stupid enough to be unaware of the fact the US has been shoveling money into the Venezuelan opposition, organizing activity against the elected government from the first day of Hugo Chavez's first day in office?

As the people of Venezuela have said over and over again, it's their MOVEMENT which brings the change, the energy, not any specific President, no matter how helpful he has been, or how beloved he is, or was. The movement itself will continue.

It's the right-wing scum still in the US government who have always been planning and working against the masses of human beings in the Americas, every day, every hour, every minute. They will lose, in the end.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
8. Calling them the right wing scum, is correct
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 02:38 AM
Apr 2014

I dislike the NSA spying on everyone, but if they want to keep an eye on those espousing violence, I've no problem. Problem is most of the RWS are in charge of many aspects of the spying.

Was thinking today about just how much free-money the US has sent to Colombia over the years to reduce violence there? Tens of billions over the years IIRC.

And what have we done to Venezuela in the meantime? Well we kidnapped the elected president and sicced the CIA on the country. And now that crazy assed republican senator from Florida is blowing his load on the poor country. Strange bedfellows; Rubio and a few DUers, eh?

Judi Lynn

(160,447 posts)
9. Yes, that highly moral Cuban right-winger who claimed his parents came to "escape" Cuba
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 02:57 AM
Apr 2014

because of the revolution who was exposed as the child of a couple of Cubans who moved to Florida well BEFORE THE REVOLUTION. Same right-wing, racist, fascist P.O.S. who has, as of last week, decided he would start leaning on the US government to hand the Venezuelan people a bag of assorted sanctions. As if that is sane, or even dignified. It's all out slobbering lunacy, and witless aggression.

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Nothing but a-holes among the fascists in this country, naturally. Not one single human being. Can't imagine why they would ever drag their tired bums over here to gibber at people so different from themselves. Nothing whatsoever in common.
 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
10. This thread is, or was, about street crime in VZ. Now it's a rant about NSA spying. How exactly
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 03:24 AM
Apr 2014

are they related?

Judi Lynn

(160,447 posts)
11. It's spin. How bizarre. Andrew Cawthorne drags his ass over to interview gravediggers,
Sun Apr 20, 2014, 04:21 AM
Apr 2014

to take a new look at death he wants to lay at the feet of leftists.

What a genius. On second thought, what a dirty propagandist. All he's done with his life has been to attack leftists. Doesn't take long to grasp what he is.

Get serious.

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
15. The UN recently published a piece claiming Venezuela to be the 2nd most violent country in the world
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 01:53 AM
Apr 2014

Tell me how this relates to right-wingers in the US spewing their bullshit again? Or are you seriously gonna insinuate that a handful of right-wingers in congress or right-wing elitists are supplying common criminals in Venezuela to keep the violence escalating?

Oh what's the point? There's no evidence that even remotely suggests that, so obviously you're gonna say "Yes" since the fact that there is no evidence makes it true somehow.

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
14. Yep, they certainly do. Most recent polls certainly show that
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 01:44 AM
Apr 2014

Maduro's popularity is down the drain, and it only took a year for him to achieve it.

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