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sandensea

(21,624 posts)
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 05:01 PM Nov 2018

Argentine labor union loses two members to police violence

Two workers belonging to Argentina's Confederation of Popular Economy Laborers (CTEP) were killed by police over the last three days. Both were shot from behind.

The first victim, textile worker Rodolfo Orellana, 36, died Thursday during an attempt to seize an empty lot in Aldo Bonzi, a working-class suburb southwest of Buenos Aires, for use as makeshift housing. Orellana was shot point blank through the shoulder blade, the bullet exiting through his face.

The second, horticulturist Marcos Soria, 32, died today while escaping a beating by Córdoba Province Police in Barrio Angelelli, a poor suburb south of Córdoba, the country's second largest city.

Like Orellana, Soria was shot from behind. Neither man was armed.

Five others, who witnessed the deaths as either protesters or bystanders, have been detained and have reportedly not been allowed to contact family, lawyers, or the press.

The CTEP, which represents mostly unregistered and undocumented workers at the lower end of the economic scale, denounced the murders and announced a demonstration for Monday morning in downtown Buenos Aires to demand justice.

"I've long since stopped believing in coincidences," CTEP leader Juan Grabois, a labor lawyer, remarked following news of Soria's death. "This is intolerable, and this government is responsible."

Shot in the dark

These latest deaths are not the first involving victims shot in the back by federal or provincial police since the right-wing Mauricio Macri administration took office three years ago.

Friday marked the anniversary of a similar case involving indigenous rights protester Rafael Nahuel. Nahuel, 22, was shot as he fled a volley of gunfire from the Coast Guard near the estate of British expat Joe Lewis - in whose lakefront home Macri has vacationed as president.

Another victim, artist Santiago Maldonado, 26, was killed nearby by Gendarmerie (federal militarized police) that August in as yet unexplained circumstances. Security Minister Patricia Bullrich later promoted the main suspect.

Since Macri took office, the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (IACHR) has expressed concern over the inappropriate and indiscriminate use of force - as well as over the use of indefinite detention against critics and opponents.

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Murdered CTEP union workers Marcos Soria and Rodolfo Orellana.

As the economy worsens and opposition to the right-wing Macri regime intensifies, incidents of unarmed protesters shot in the back by police have become a growing trend in Argentina.
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Argentine labor union loses two members to police violence (Original Post) sandensea Nov 2018 OP
So it starts. Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #1
Cheeto will be in Buenos Aires for the G20 summit this Friday sandensea Nov 2018 #2
Something is up, Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #3
In Argentina's case, it's largely self-inflicted. sandensea Nov 2018 #4
Had not been following this like I should have. Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #5
That's a good side story to this tragedy down there: Trump's likely reaction (if any) sandensea Nov 2018 #6
Thanks for the background on Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #7
Isn't that the truth. sandensea Nov 2018 #8
Our Daughter In Laws Sis in Law Wellstone ruled Nov 2018 #9
Sandensea, your post just reminded me of Reagan's Otto Reich, propagandist extraordinaire. Judi Lynn Nov 2018 #10
Well put. I think he does feel emboldened - and yet, increasingly desperate. sandensea Nov 2018 #11
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. So it starts.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 05:07 PM
Nov 2018

We have seen this movie many a time before. Watch for Trump to do something Stupid before Springtime.

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
2. Cheeto will be in Buenos Aires for the G20 summit this Friday
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 05:43 PM
Nov 2018

He'll no doubt ask his old pal Macri for pointers.

"But how do you get away with shooting unarmed people in the back, Mauricio?"

"Simple. You get right-wing media to demonize them non-stop for a week."

"But what about MSNBC and CNN? They'd never go along with that you know."

"Donald, Donald. Get Whittaker to go after the owners! And that woman, Maddow!"

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Something is up,
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 05:53 PM
Nov 2018

Russia Ukraine and now this Argentina blow up.

Is Comrade Bone Spurs needing a cover?

Or is this a Putin move to Checkmate China?




sandensea

(21,624 posts)
4. In Argentina's case, it's largely self-inflicted.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 06:15 PM
Nov 2018

Voters narrowly elected Macri 3 years ago on promises to boost the economy through tax cuts and deregulation - with a side of racial dog-whistling (Argentina, like the U.S., has an eroding white majority - and many white voters don't like it).

Macri, however, quickly went back on his campaign promises - raising taxes and utility rates (by slashing price subsidies), and applying other Naomi Klein-esque shock policies.

He then deregulated finance to where a massive, $100 billion debt bubble developed (2016/17). The bubble, of course, popped this April - triggering a wave of capital flight and a collapse in the peso.

Macri responded by borrowing $21 billion from the IMF - with Greece-style strings attached - and by raising the prime rate to 70%.

This has stabilized the peso (for now), but pushed the already slumping economy into a near-depression.

Most of the business community was downright giddy over Macri when he was elected, coming after 12 years of center-left administrations (whose results were mixed, but positive overall).

Now many of them are hoping Cheeto will just take him back on Air Force One.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. Had not been following this like I should have.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 08:07 PM
Nov 2018

So this is the real cause of the Argentinians flight towards the USA. Understand some 3 Million People have or are about to flee to neighboring Countries .

So Donnie of little Mental Ability is about to mess with this ,interesting.

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
6. That's a good side story to this tragedy down there: Trump's likely reaction (if any)
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 08:27 PM
Nov 2018

On one hand, Trump likes Macri at a personal level: you see, they've known each other since around '84, when Macri's father sold Cheeto a majority stake in the old Lincoln West (now Riverside South) development in the Upper West Side.

Macri is also a staunch right-winger, just below fascist. Lots of cronyism, police brutality and indefinite detention of opponents (like what Trump would do if he could).

But on the other hand, Trump has nothing for disdain for Macri - mainly because he's the one that forced the elder Macri to sell Lincoln West (allegedly by cajoling NYC officials and Chase Manhattan loan officers to boycott Macri, thus forcing him to sell).

As fate would have it, Cheeto himself would be forced to sell Lincoln West during his bankruptcy in the early '90s to Hong Kong investors, who later developed the site.

It's hard to say how all this will factor into any possible Trump policies re the Argentine crisis. Plus, of course, his base wouldn't like it.

China, it's worth noting, is already tangoing with Macri in the form of an $8 billion currency swap (enough to cover a whole year of Arg. trade deficits with the Chinese). To think Macri practically spat in their face back in 2016!

This promises to be an interesting G20 summit.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. Thanks for the background on
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 08:56 PM
Nov 2018

Senior Macri. Interesting how Donnie gets himself sideways with people.

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
8. Isn't that the truth.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 09:27 PM
Nov 2018

You're very welcome, Wellstone Ruled.

Argentina is a facinating country and topic. Lots of drama, always.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. Our Daughter In Laws Sis in Law
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 10:27 PM
Nov 2018

is from Argentina. Violence in the major Cities is the norm. She has tried to bring family members to the US without any luck.

Judi Lynn

(160,524 posts)
10. Sandensea, your post just reminded me of Reagan's Otto Reich, propagandist extraordinaire.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 06:43 AM
Nov 2018

He kept himself occupied pounding, pressuring, harrassing, threatening, and worse corporate newspaper journalists who were still attempting to give the US public some idea of what was going on in Central America during Iran/Contra. Otto Reich, Cuban-American "exile" creep actually got into some trouble, legally for his excesses, as hard as that is to believe, considering the clout the right-wing has had, for decades.

He threatened journalists who were reporting from locations in Central America, fed stories that they were consorting with prostitutes, even with gay, male prostitutes, on, and on, and on, and on..... There's a whole lot about him to be located easily in any quick search.

Here's something from the Washington Post:

REAGAN'S PRO-CONTRA PROPAGANDA MACHINE
By Robert Parry and
Peter Kornbluh September 4, 1988

AS THE IRAN-CONTRA affair moves onto the dusty library shelf of history, one of its most troubling stories remains untold. To a degree little understood even by the congressional investigating committees, the Reagan administration attempted to manipulate American views of the war in Nicaragua through an unprecedented, covert propaganda bureaucracy.

The apparatus was coordinated by the National Security Council staff, used CIA experts and Army psychological-warfare specialists and worked to intimidate or discredit those who stood in the way of military aid for the contras. Ultimately, the campaign came to resemble the sort of covert political operation the CIA runs against hostile forces overseas but is outlawed from conducting at home.

. . .

The troubling aspects of the domestic propaganda operation include:

A CIA link. Iran-contra documents show that the propaganda campaign's chief architects were the late CIA director William J. Casey and Walter Raymond Jr., a veteran of CIA clandestine media operations overseas. In 1982, Casey detailed Raymond to the NSC staff where he set up the "public-diplomacy" machinery. One U.S. official described Raymond in an interview as the CIA's leading propaganda expert; Raymond told congressional investigators he was recommended for the NSC staff by another CIA veteran, Donald Gregg, national security adviser to Vice President George Bush.

One senior NSC official acknowledged in an interview that the public-diplomacy apparatus was modeled after CIA covert operations overseas. "They were trying to manipulate {U.S.} public opinion . . . using the tools of Walt Raymond's tradecraft which he learned from his career in the CIA covert-operation shop," the official said. To sidestep legal bars on CIA domestic activities, Raymond retired from the CIA in April 1983 so that, as he said in his deposition for the Iran-contra committee, "there would be no contamination of this."

Psy-war specialists. To staff the State Department public-diplomacy office on Central America, the administration recruited Defense Department personnel with propaganda training. One high-level operative, Lt. Col. Daniel "Jake" Jacobowitz, had a "background in psychological warfare," a senior public-diplomacy official, Jonathan Miller, told the Iran-contra committee. The office drew five other psy-war specialists from the 4th Psychological Operations Group at Fort Bragg, N.C. One was assigned to find "exploitable themes and trends," Jacobowitz wrote in a May 30, 1985 internal memo. The military men worked in the State Department office for stints ranging from several months to about a year.

According to military doctrine, psychological operations identify cultural and political weaknesses in a target country that can be exploited to induce the population to comply, whether consciously or not, with those carrying out the psy-op.

More:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1988/09/04/reagans-pro-contra-propaganda-machine/42d256fc-9d93-4174-b629-06d91f9124c6/?utm_term=.cd4db991a75c

~ ~ ~

MAY 7, 2001 ISSUE
Lie to the Media, Get a Job
By Eric AltermanTwitter APRIL 19, 2001

Perhaps I underestimate the joy of being given a silly nickname by the Leader of the Free World, but I’m having a hard time understanding why media big feet are so taken by the nation’s new Charmer in Chief. Leave aside the extreme right-wing agenda he’s pursuing when by any fair measure of voting he lost the election. Forget that he began his term by breaking his key campaign promises. And ignore his frequent and unapologetic lies about his commitment to bipartisan governance. What about the fact that, perhaps more than any President since Nixon, Bush holds the media and its denizens in utter contempt?

Take for example Bush’s decision to appoint Otto Reich to head the Latin American office in the State Department. As Peter Kornbluh discusses elsewhere in this issue [see “Bush’s Contra Buddies,” page 6], Reich’s job in the Reagan Administration was simply to lie to (and about) the media. He did it very well. According to Walter Raymond–the CIA propaganda specialist whom William Casey transferred to the National Security Council in order to circumvent the 1947 National Security Act, which restricted CIA involvement in domestic propaganda operations–the purpose of Reich’s Office of Public Diplomacy was to “concentrate on gluing black hats on the sandinistas and white hats on the UNO [contras].” Staffed by senior CIA officials with backgrounds in covert operations, military intelligence and psychological warfare, the OPD offered privileges to favored journalists, placed ghostwritten articles over the signatures of contra leaders in leading opinion magazines and on Op-Ed pages, and publicized nasty stories about the Sandinistas, true or not. In its first year, it sent attacks on the Sandinistas to 1,600 college libraries, 520 political science faculties, 122 editorial writers, 107 religious organizations and countless reporters, right-wing lobbyists and members of Congress. It booked advocates for 1,570 lecture and talk-show engagements. In just one week of March 1985, the OPD officers bragged in a memo of having fooled the editors of the Wall Street Journal into publishing an Op-Ed about Nicaragua penned by an unknown professor, having guided an NBC news story on the contras and having written and edited Op-Ed articles to be signed by contra spokesmen, as well as having planted false stories in the media about a visiting Congressman’s experiences in Nicaragua.

Among the OPD’s lies were stories that portrayed the Sandinistas as virulent anti-Semites, that reported a Soviet shipment of MIG jets to Managua and that purported to reveal that US reporters in Nicaragua were receiving sexual favors–hetero- and homosexual–from Sandinista agents in exchange for pro-Communist reporting. That last lie, published in the July 29, 1985, New York magazine, came directly from Reich.


More:
https://www.thenation.com/article/lie-media-get-job/

ETC., ETC.

~ ~ ~

It does seem as if Macri is stepping up his war upon dissent, doesn't it? Do you think he feels embolden by the growing fascist power in the Americas, especially encouraged by having a real super-scum headed for the Presidency right next door in Brazil? Two biggest countries in South America, with so many citizens affected by their decisions. So many people to control through fear. That's how the right-wing does it.

It would take a dedicated nazi-in-hiding not to acknowledge the familiar habit of using the media to mold the public's opinion of people the fascist presidents want to destroy, in order to get by with radical, murderous suppression. That's their thing. Keeps newspapers like Argentina's Clarín news corporation, and El Mercurio, in Chile clicking right along decade after decade after decade, when they have operated by white-washing even the most monstrous, fiendish, brutal criminality against the populations. They are not newspapers, they are propaganda organs.

Thank you, so much for this thread, and the very unhappy news about direct attacks on workers, from the back, yet, on their way to even more evil events.


sandensea

(21,624 posts)
11. Well put. I think he does feel emboldened - and yet, increasingly desperate.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 02:47 PM
Nov 2018

The 2019 Argentine campaign season, as you know, is about to start, and Macri is down in the polls against just about any Peronist candidate - including Cristina Kirchner (she's up 12% in the latest hypothetical matchup).

Argentina's Otto Reich-wingers gave her the Hillary Clinton media treatment for 6+ years, and while they did succeed in raising her personal disapproval ratings, it's done them no good thanks to their own rotten economic policies.

So while 52% 'dislike' her, some 60% dislike Macri. Some bargain.

What I'd remind Signore Macri if I could, is that if you adopt Bush-style policies, you'll get a Bush-style collapse - and all the more so in Argentina!

Few would be surprised anymore if he forfeits his candidacy in favor of Miss Opus Dei, María Vidal. But between the rotten economy, her closeness to Macri (who she's been trying to unglue herslef from, but to no avail), and her own campaign finance scandals (including thousands of indentity thefts to launder said funds), she's hardly better off.

Big business meanwhile, who as you know largely supported Macri at first thanks to the costly tax cuts he gave them, is already actively consulting Mrs. Kirchner's former advisers.

"We used to complain about you all," one major developer reportedly told Axel Kicillof, "but these people (Macri) are the worst."

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