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unhappycamper

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Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:06 AM Jan 2014

Ford VP Claims The Company Is Tracking Everyone's Driving Habits... Then Denies It

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140110/12395525837/ford-vp-claims-company-is-tracking-everyones-driving-habits-then-denies-it.shtml

Ford VP Claims The Company Is Tracking Everyone's Driving Habits... Then Denies It
from the just-great dept
by Mike Masnick
Fri, Jan 10th 2014 2:30pm

At a time when we're learning more and more about the vast level of surveillance by the NSA, Ford's global VP of marketing and sales, Jim Farley, made some monumentally stupid comments at CES recently, claiming that the company knows every driver who breaks the law, thanks to GPS devices in cars. After realizing how bad that looked, he insisted he only meant "hypothetically" in talking about the kinds of things that could be done in the future.

Of course, in between point A and point B, you have to imagine someone at the NSA rushed down to the FISA court seeking a Section 215 bulk "business records" order from every American car company for "mere metadata" on every driver in America, right? Just joking. Maybe.

Of course, even if Farley wasn't accurate in his initial statement, it's close enough to true anyway, since so many people carry mobile phones in their pockets, and those are easily tracked as well. In many cases, people are willing to get the benefits of location information, but we don't have nearly enough transparency or knowledge about what's being done with that information, or given the right to control or limit how that information is shared or used.

In an age where so much information is shared with companies, those companies need to move to solutions that involve much greater transparency and controls. Companies making use of your information need to start being upfront about the type of data they collect and how it's being used. The problem with the idea of Ford keeping track of which one of you has a lead foot isn't in that this is possible. Everyone knew it was already possible. It was just been the assumption that no one would actually do it. And that's the kind of thing that needs to change. Companies want to make use of our data, and sometimes it's for very useful purposes -- things that we're happy to get in exchange for the data. The problem is that too often, how the data is being used is hidden from us, and the "benefits" are not clearly laid out. Furthermore, once the data is gone... it's gone, and there are little to no controls about how it's used and shared.
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Ford VP Claims The Company Is Tracking Everyone's Driving Habits... Then Denies It (Original Post) unhappycamper Jan 2014 OP
Meh. Years ago someone mentioned that EZ-Pass knew... TreasonousBastard Jan 2014 #1

TreasonousBastard

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1. Meh. Years ago someone mentioned that EZ-Pass knew...
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 08:43 AM
Jan 2014

when you got on the Turnpike and when you got off and so knew your average speed. The Turnpike Authority and State Police said it would be probably illegal, but mainly unprofitable, to try to use that to send out tickets. Dunno how long that will last. Or the experiments with traffic cams and red lights.

Any TV cop show will have at least one scene-- "Her phone is still on and she's crossing 43rd St. right now".

And, in the event my car is in a serious wreck, OnStar knows where I am and will call 911 directing them to my lifeless body.

the future we desired and the future we feared are both here.

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