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Related: About this forumWork and Worth by Robert Reich
Saturday, August 2, 2014What someone is paid has little or no relationship to what their work is worth to society.
Does anyone seriously believe hedge-fund mogul Steven A. Cohen is worth the $2.3 billion he raked in last year, despite being slapped with a $1.8 billion fine after his firm pleaded guilty to insider trading?
On the other hand, whats the worth to society of social workers who put in long and difficult hours dealing with patients suffering from mental illness or substance abuse? Probably higher than their average pay of $18.14 an hour, which translates into less than $38,000 a year.
How much does society gain from personal-care aides who assist the elderly, convalescents, and persons with disabilities? Likely more than their average pay of $9.67 an hour, or just over $20,000 a year.
Whats the social worth of hospital orderlies who feed, bathe, dress, and move patients, and empty their ben pans? Surely higher than their median wage of $11.63 an hour, or $24,190 a year.
http://robertreich.org/post/93632709170
mountain grammy
(26,613 posts)I swear, the next person who uses the phrase "unskilled labor" around me will get a poke in the eye.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)pipoman
(16,038 posts)Continues to pretend that the policies he so dearly loves and advocates for are not why these people are paid so little...delusional or liar?
pinto
(106,886 posts)???
pipoman
(16,038 posts)Did he mention he has to advocate for $15 burger flippers because he sold the good jobs out? Did he mention he supports unions unless someone pays him not to? How does one disregard the wishes of 90+ percent of labor union members while employed as the labor union members top government official, yet support labor unions? No, he's a traitor and a 1% sellout tool.
pinto
(106,886 posts)pipoman
(16,038 posts)Despite his reputation as a liberal and a friend of working men and women, Reich knows how to walk both sides of the street. I recall that he rarely, if ever, mentioned unions during his four years as Secretary of Labor. He has no problem backing proposals that cheer business more than labor, like ending the corporate income tax. If you read his recent book, Supercapitalism, you would think Steve Forbes was the writer. But no, it's the former Secretary of Labor calling for eliminating a tax that helps keep down the tax burden on working men and women across this nation. Does Senator Obama support that Reich idea? Is eliminating the corporate income tax going to be part of the "change we can believe in"?
Reich says that corporate responsibility is counterproductive. He thinks it's a distraction. That's beautiful. Here we have a former Secretary of Labor, someone who should know better, taking the GOP line that corporations need to focus on making money and forget about everything else. The movement for social responsibility has promoted ethical decision-making in business, community development programs, day-care centers, HIV-AIDS training, family-friendly workplaces, and more. To suggest that those developments are a distraction from the responsibility of corporations to amass profits for shareholders, as Secretary Reich does in his book, is shameful.
So is his support for NAFTA. Reich says unfair trade pacts bear no responsibility for the decline in manufacturing jobs in the U.S. Two months ago, Reich wrote that "it's a shame the Democratic candidates for president feel they have to make trade - specifically NAFTA - the enemy of blue-collar workers and the putative cause of their difficulties. NAFTA is not to blame." He's wrong on NAFTA, just as Obama's chief economic advisor Professor Goolsbee was wrong on NAFTA.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/97450
pinto
(106,886 posts)Some caused me to take a second look. Overall though, it seems he's got some good points of view. ~ pinto
― Robert B. Reich
― Robert B. Reich, Aftershock: The Next Economy and America's Future
― Robert B. Reich
― Robert B. Reich, Aftershock: The Next Economy and America's Future
― Robert B. Reich
― Robert B. Reich, Aftershock: The Next Economy and America's Future
― Robert B. Reich
― Robert B. Reich, Aftershock: The Next Economy and America's Future
https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/43932.Robert_B_Reich
pipoman
(16,038 posts)He speaks populist and does corporatist...
oh, and his tool status is demonstrated by his constant yammering idealist populist script because he has been discarded by those who used him while he actually could do something. Frankly i would be satisfied if he would just publicly admit his trade policy is a failure for US labor. ..
pinto
(106,886 posts)How does he do corporatist? Not sure what your point is. I feel I'm missing something.
philly_bob
(2,419 posts)That the government forgive student debt of those who go into "social work, child care, elder care, nursing, and teaching."
Doesn't solve the whole problem -- but it's a step in the right direction.
With a cooperating Congress, could be done immediately. Get Out the Vote this year!
danriker
(52 posts)This is my first post on this site, and I am not fully aware of the protocols, so if this violates any, my apologies. I am a big fan of Robert Reich and I could not resist responding to his post. I have a chapter in a book I have just completed and hope to have published in the near future, "Let's Do What Works and Call it Capitalism," in which I argue the minimum wage should be doubled. The entire chapter, along with the Table of Contents and Introduction, are posted at http://www.dailykos.com/blog/Dan%20Riker/
The chapter opens with these quotes:
A man must always live by his work, and his wages must at least be sufficient to maintain him, They must even upon most occasions be somewhat more; otherwise it would be impossible for him to bring up a family.
- Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations, 1776
We stand for a living wage. Wages are subnormal if they fail to provide a living for those who devote their time and energy to industrial occupations. The monetary equivalent of a living wage varies according to local conditions, but must include enough to secure the elements of a normal standard of living--a standard high enough to make morality possible, to provide for education and recreation, to care for immature members of the family, to maintain the family during periods of sickness, and to permit of reasonable saving for old age.
- Theodore Roosevelt, National Progressive Party Convention, 1912
When someone works for less pay than she can live on when, for example, she goes hungry so that you can eat more cheaply and conveniently then she has made a great sacrifice for you, she has made you a gift of some part of her abilities, her health, and her life. The 'working poor,' as they are approvingly termed, are in fact the major philanthropists of our society. They neglect their own children so that the children of others will be cared for; they live in substandard housing so that other homes will be shiny and perfect; they endure privation so that inflation will be low and stock prices high. To be a member of the working poor is to be an anonymous donor, a nameless benefactor, to everyone else.
- Barbara Ehrenreich, Nickel and Dimed, 2001
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)I will take a look at your chapter, and look forward to many more posts by you here.
I am sorry I didn't discover this site much sooner.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Crewleader
(17,005 posts)It's always nice to have another fan of Robert Reich and A Very Big Welcome To DU!
danriker
(52 posts)I have two citations to works of Robert Reich in my book, Let's Do What Works and Call it Capitalism. In my section on laissez-faire capitalism and social darwinists, I refer readers to Beyond Outrage for more detail. In discussing economic inequality, I reference his movie, which I think is terrific.
Crewleader
(17,005 posts)I can bet Robert Reich will be honored. Thank you for introducing yourself and letting us all know of your book.
pinto
(106,886 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,110 posts)And you're doing just fine! Welcome to DU, danriker! It's great to have you with us!