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nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 05:24 PM Nov 2017

My partial analysis of the GOP tax plan

Single standard deduction filer: slight tax breaks up through 20000 AGI then more

Married no dependents filer: slight tax breaks up through 40000 AGI then more

BUT:

Single senior standard deduction pays more from about 14000 AGI to 24000 AGI

Married no dependents seniors: pay more from about 30000 AGI to 45000 AGI

And a married couple with 2 kids:

Pay more/get less refund from about 33000 AGI through 55000 AGI (and beyond?)

SO:

Rich get richer off the backs of seniors and kids.

Heck of a job, GOP.

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nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
1. Two of my predictions ahead of action on the GOP tax plan
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 05:29 PM
Nov 2017

1. People will be rushing to their doctors and dentists to get work done in 2017 (fearing the medical expenses won't be deductible anymore)

2. Houses above $500 K will be slower to move because of threats of caps on mortgage interest deductibility. This market may become more dependent on seasonal events, such as military officer moving season.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
2. I am a pretty good winner
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 05:38 PM
Nov 2017

under this tax plan. I am going to save about $1400.

Couple no kids with standard deduction

$50K income - $232.50 savings
$90K income - $1,432.50 savings

That $1,432.50 holds up to about $170K. I have not looked at higher rates.

That $1,432.50 is going to disappear pretty quickly for the itemizers though.

BigmanPigman

(51,571 posts)
5. The moron wanted to call it the "Cut, Cut, Cut Bill".
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 06:37 PM
Nov 2017

That sounds odd to me...like an ad for a barber shop or a doctor who performs vasectomies.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
7. OH Yes.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:26 AM
Nov 2017


But others are getting messed up too.

If I am reading the bill correctly, it removes:

The increase in standard deduction for 65+ and/or blind

Personal exemptions

The Lifetime Learning credit

The deduction of casualty losses

Expenses paid by You as an employee to maintain skills/credentials (think continuing professional education)

Health Savings Accounts

(Maybe the medical expenses deduction)

And of course the state and local tax deduction.

Amongst other things (such as no more itemizing fees paid to tax preparers).

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
8. And what about charitable contributions?
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:28 AM
Nov 2017

I you can't itemize, you can't deduct them on your tax return.

sandensea

(21,604 posts)
9. Talk about going where the GOP has never gone before.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:19 PM
Nov 2017

Thank you, nitpicker. Interesting times, right?

question everything

(47,444 posts)
11. Yes, Our largest item is medical expenses because of the long-term care insurance
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 03:07 PM
Nov 2017

close to $9,000 for both of us.

Thus our projected itemized deductions is $27,000. But with the elimination of medical deductions, we will take the standard deduction of $24,000. Losing 3,000 there.

Plus eliminating the personal exemptions - around $8,000 - and our taxable income, right out the gate rises by $11,000.

Lowering the tax rate from 15% to 12% does not compensate for this.

sandensea

(21,604 posts)
12. Makes one mad just to read that.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:17 PM
Nov 2017

No one should have to pay a penny more in taxes, just so some spoiled lounge lizard can buy another of these:



That doll must be there for the owner to remind himself he's human.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
10. This is the big tell. GOP plan has some cuts for middle class... that disappear after 5 years.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 02:32 PM
Nov 2017

Full disclosure: I do not know if his charts are accurate or not. RTs do not equal endorsement, as the kids say.

Retweeted by RogueAltGov: https://twitter.com/RogueAltGov

This is the big tell. GOP plan has some cuts for middle class... that disappear after 5 years.

Corporate & inheritance tax cuts? Permanent.



I recommend reading your tax plan. Those tax cuts expire after 5 years, raising taxes on that same family.



This one chart says everything you need to know about the GOP tax plan.


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