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XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 03:10 PM Apr 2012

Face it: All forests are "sluts"

If you think the word "slut" insults women, how about the use of the word "virgin" to describe a forest that's never been logged?

It's a commonly used term. Dictionary.com, for instance, defines "virgin forest" this way: "a forest in its natural state, before it has been explored or exploited by man."

Still, I was hoping that environmental organizations, which work for the good of the Earth and humankind and all that, might have become more sensitive over the last 40 years or so. So imagine my surprise when I was reading a piece about the importance of biodiversity on the World Wildlife Fund website and found this statement taken from a book published in 1994: " In the contiguous United States, 98 percent of virgin forests have been destroyed." I've worked on forest issues for 40 years and find this statement unbelievable.

Virgin is not only an unscientific term, it is also impossible to quantify. Yet the "virgin forest" moniker has even crept into some National Park Service documents. While looking at descriptions of the agency's National Natural Landmark program, you can find the term "virgin forests," though none of the areas are west of Nebraska.

http://www.hcn.org/wotr/face-it-all-forests-are-sluts

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Face it: All forests are "sluts" (Original Post) XemaSab Apr 2012 OP
oh for pete's sake.... mike_c Apr 2012 #1
I thought this was a thought-provoking article XemaSab Apr 2012 #2
confession... mike_c Apr 2012 #4
You must really hate Richard Branson! bananas Apr 2012 #7
How about calling them 'un-fucked-with' forests. I prefer those, instead of mono-cultured fake ones. freshwest Apr 2012 #3
Native Americans were managing forests for millenia before Europeans came NickB79 Apr 2012 #5
Those forests were asking for it. phantom power Apr 2012 #6

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
1. oh for pete's sake....
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 03:19 PM
Apr 2012

Let's just call them "forests with their metaphorical hymen intact."

Otherwise, we might recall that lots of english words have multiple meanings and connotations, and that it's not inappropriate to use a word with it's intended meaning, but rather to conflate it with it's unintended meaning.

vir·gin

n.
1. A person who has not experienced sexual intercourse.
2. A chaste or unmarried woman; a maiden.
3. An unmarried woman who has taken religious vows of chastity.
4. Virgin The Virgin Mary.
5. Zoology A female insect or other arthropod that produces fertile eggs without copulating.

adj.
1. Of, relating to, or being a virgin; chaste.
2. Being in a pure or natural state; unsullied: virgin snow.
3. Unused, uncultivated, or unexplored: virgin territory.
4. Existing in native or raw form; not processed or refined.
5. Happening for the first time; initial.
6. Obtained directly from the first pressing: virgin olive oil.
7. Zoology Producing fertile eggs without copulating.

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
4. confession...
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 03:31 PM
Apr 2012

I didn't read it. But I too have spent some years in forest research and I've been using terms like "virgin stand" forever, although in grants and the like I suppose I prefer "primary forest," but only because I think it's a more accurate descriptive adjective in that context. But "virgin" HAS been in common use to describe things other than female sexual experience for a LONG time. Virgin paper, virgin snow, virgin silk, virgin prairie. Virgin Airlines (although I wonder whether that might be traced ultimately to referencing Elizabeth's virginity, like "Virgin Islands" and "Virginia&quot .

And don't you think we've known one another long enough to dispense with the honorific? Mike Male Privilege is ao much less formal, don't you think?

bananas

(27,509 posts)
7. You must really hate Richard Branson!
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 07:28 AM
Apr 2012

Virgin Galactic
Virgin Airlines
Virgin Records
Virgin Mobile
...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Branson

Sir Richard Charles Nicholas Branson (born 18 July 1950) is an English business magnate, best known for his Virgin Group of more than 400 companies.[2]

<snip>

The name "Virgin" was suggested by one of Branson's early employees because they were all new at business.[9]

<snip>

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
3. How about calling them 'un-fucked-with' forests. I prefer those, instead of mono-cultured fake ones.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 03:28 PM
Apr 2012

The Stepford Wife ones, all planted in straight lines and acting the same after clear cutting.

Wild and free, that's the way to be.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
5. Native Americans were managing forests for millenia before Europeans came
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 03:58 PM
Apr 2012

They didn't go to the extreme of clear-cut logging like we have, but they did drastically alter the forest composition by setting fires to clear out brush and create more savanna-like conditions more conducive to hunting and the permaculture agriculture they practiced.

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