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eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 12:34 AM Sep 2017

Scientists hope to restore extinct Galapagos tortoise (AP/ABC)

By The Associated Press
QUITO, Ecuador — Sep 13, 2017, 6:30 PM ET

Scientists in Ecuador's Galapagos islands are hoping to restore a tortoise species believed extinct since the 1800s.

The Chelonoidis elephantopus lived on Floreana Island and was captured by seamen in large numbers for food during long journeys across the Pacific. The species is thought to have disappeared shortly after Charles Darwin's celebrated visit to the treasured archipelago.

But a group of international scientists who collected 1,700 blood samples from tortoises on Isabel Island farther north during a research expedition in 2012 made a surprising discovery: 80 had genetic traces of the lost species.

"This is a species that was considered extinct for 160 years," Washington Tapia, one of the scientists studying the tortoises, told The Associated Press. "We didn't imagine what we would find."

Researchers with the Galapagos Conservancy and the Galapagos National Park are now trying to restore the species by selecting 20 specimens with higher amounts of the Floreana tortoise in its DNA to reproduce.
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Scientists hope to restore extinct Galapagos tortoise (AP/ABC) (Original Post) eppur_se_muova Sep 2017 OP
Hope it works. democratisphere Sep 2017 #1
It has worked with other species dixiegrrrrl Sep 2017 #2
The Quagga Project seems to be achieving success, though it is perhaps a special case ... eppur_se_muova Sep 2017 #3
imho, it is working w english bulldogs. no dna testing involved, but mopinko Sep 2017 #4
* climbs onto soapbox* : dixiegrrrrl Sep 2017 #5
i blame the judges. mopinko Sep 2017 #6

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
2. It has worked with other species
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 01:37 AM
Sep 2017

I am thinking in particular of some ponies from the Russian steppes, they were "reverse engineered" if you will to save the breed.

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
3. The Quagga Project seems to be achieving success, though it is perhaps a special case ...
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 09:44 AM
Sep 2017

... in that the Quagga was never a fully differentiated species, but a subspecies.

Efforts with aurochs and Barbary lions are also underway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De-extinction

mopinko

(70,023 posts)
4. imho, it is working w english bulldogs. no dna testing involved, but
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 04:53 PM
Sep 2017

i have a victorian bulldogge, one of several developing breeds that are taking the best of the current american stock of english, plus the closely related breeds that came from that dog. dog du bordeaux and american bulls are the basic recipe. some people have added amstaff, but that is kinda controversial.
they still have health problems to sort out, tho one, called merrit's are said to have no bad hips in the bloodline, and otherwise few health issues.

biff is a great dog, and quite healthy at 5. his brother doctor doom has very bad hips, but is otherwise a strong, healthy, wonderful dog.
biff is 85 lbs, doctor is 100. tho both have skin issues and some allergies, compared to the english bulldogs i see these days, they are very close to their ideal of recreating the dog that was a working dog in the victorian era.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
5. * climbs onto soapbox* :
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 05:39 PM
Sep 2017

I am quite pleased with British breed standards for dogs, compared to what we have over here, esp. Golden Retrievers and German shepherds.

mopinko

(70,023 posts)
6. i blame the judges.
Thu Sep 14, 2017, 05:58 PM
Sep 2017

are they favoring their buddies in the ring or what? it seems for every breed specific traits, we are seeing exaggerations that are detrimental to the dogs. see gsd hips. a little slope in the stance has turned into an exaggerated disaster for the dogs. a wide looking chest on a bulldog turns into bow legged dogs.

it would be nice if you had to actually prove your dogs met the proper standard to get your papers. or at least to register your litters. it is all about the money, and every idiot that has papers on a dog sees those dollar signs.

ok, sorry, here is your soapbox back.

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