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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,290 posts)
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 07:20 AM Jul 2021

Gas Engines, and the People Behind Them, Are Cast Aside for Electric Vehicles

Fewer moving parts; fewer people needed to assemble those parts.

Bye-bye, lots of jobs.

This was in the weekend edition of The Wall Street Journal.

Powertrain engineers have been the rocks stars of the auto-engineering ranks. But the rapid shift to electric cars is marginalizing their trade. A deeper look at the industry disruption wrought by the EV transformation. https://wsj.com/articles/gas-engines-cast-aside-electric-vehicles-job-losses-detroit-11627046285?st=96p6abq8s4bo93s&reflink=desktopwebshare_twitter via
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Gas Engines, and the People Behind Them, Are Cast Aside for Electric Vehicles

Transition not yet noticeable in showrooms, but industry resources have shifted. ‘We’re trying to make things change pretty quickly’

By Mike Colias
https://twitter.com/MikeColias
mike.colias@wsj.com
July 23, 2021 9:21 am ET

Steven Penkevich spent 36 years at Ford Motor Co. as part of an army of Detroit engineers who perfected the internal combustion engine, a technology dating back to the dawn of the automobile era. He developed gasoline engines for family sedans as well as thunderous Nascar racing machines.

By last year, though, the excitement was gone. His projects were no longer about advancing the engine, just nursing along existing technology. All the buzz had shifted to electric vehicles. In December, Mr. Penkevich took early retirement at age 59.

“It got to feel like you’re on a maintenance crew,” he said.

For more than a century, auto makers continually honed their gas and diesel engines, sparring over which had greater power, better fuel efficiency, more durability or delivered a smoother ride.

Now, some of the world’s biggest car companies are sending the combustion engine to the scrap heap and are pouring billions of dollars into electric motors and battery factories. Instead of powertrain specialists, they are hiring thousands of software engineers and battery experts.

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Gas Engines, and the People Behind Them, Are Cast Aside for Electric Vehicles (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 OP
Hmmm... 2naSalit Jul 2021 #1
I can't read it all online either, but ... mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 #2
Thanks... 2naSalit Jul 2021 #3
Progress! There are always new things putting the old to bed. TreasonousBastard Jul 2021 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author exboyfil Jul 2021 #5
Not just gas motors for cars. 2 Cycle engines are also being disrupted. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #6
Those are four-strokes, at least the ones I'm familiar with. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 #7
Of course you are right. I was thinking about my chain saw when I wrote that. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #8
Lawn Boy mowers were 2 stroke Finishline42 Jul 2021 #9
Next gen is battery. Cut the cord! OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #11
Mercedes has stopped development of gas engines. Finishline42 Jul 2021 #10
Times, they are achangin.... OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #12
Yes they are Finishline42 Jul 2021 #13
It wouldn't make much sense to have to recharge the batteries every time they run down. OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2021 #14

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
1. Hmmm...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 07:29 AM
Jul 2021

Because of paywall, I can't read the whole thing but I would imagine that the answer to the jobs issue is to adapt, as many a conservative type would tell you. So the best way to do that is to pass the Biden plan since it is a sound and shovel-ready plan that will put us well on our way to appropriate transition. Anything less will not keep us from extinctioning ourselves.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,290 posts)
2. I can't read it all online either, but ...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 07:38 AM
Jul 2021

I linked to an article in The Wall Street Journal. in LBN a few days ago. Someone who replied found that he could read the entire article by linking to it through the tweet. This trick doesn't always work.

Second, your local public library probably has a subscription to the electronic The Wall Street Journal. You should have access through your library account.

There was an anecdote about the firm Borg-Warner that was, I think, in this article. An analyst pointed out to B-W executives during an earnings conference that everything they make is obsolete in an electric vehicle.

Thanks for writing, and good morning.

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
3. Thanks...
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 07:42 AM
Jul 2021

I never thought of looking through the library acct. I'll have to look into that, thanks.

And good morning.

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OAITW r.2.0

(24,287 posts)
6. Not just gas motors for cars. 2 Cycle engines are also being disrupted.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 11:42 AM
Jul 2021

Briggs and Stratton type engines are also an endangered species. I just bought an electric riding lawnmower....works great and far quieter than the equivalent gas versions.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,290 posts)
7. Those are four-strokes, at least the ones I'm familiar with.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 12:43 PM
Jul 2021

I'm not saying they don't make two-strokes, but most lawn mower engines I've seen are four-strokes.

Thanks for writing.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,287 posts)
8. Of course you are right. I was thinking about my chain saw when I wrote that.
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 02:44 PM
Jul 2021

I bought an battery electric chainsaw last year. It's much easier to operate for light jobs like delimbing trees.

Finishline42

(1,091 posts)
9. Lawn Boy mowers were 2 stroke
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 08:40 PM
Jul 2021

I had one that I used until it broke. Local govt would give you a $125 credit when you dropped off a gas mower. Took my $125 credit and bought an electric mower. On my second one. Doing the electric cord dance every two weeks (every week in the spring).

Really prefer the stop start of an electric mower.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,287 posts)
11. Next gen is battery. Cut the cord!
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:44 PM
Jul 2021

I have a battery weedwacker, chainsaw, blower, drill/sawzall/3.5" circular saw. And a riding law mower - 2 blade, 36" cut. Love them all. Simple and they do 95% of my ground keeping needs.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,287 posts)
12. Times, they are achangin....
Sun Jul 25, 2021, 09:50 PM
Jul 2021

I wonder if John Deere. et al. are moving this way. Farmers with lots of acres for Solar power will be a no brainer for energy systems that are batteries (SLA for weight) with quick change out capabilities.

Finishline42

(1,091 posts)
13. Yes they are
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 04:55 AM
Jul 2021

Actually I don't think batteries are a good solution for farmers. During planting and harvesting I doubt they want to spend time recharging. But I think they could probably make good money leasing land for solar.

But I always wondered why farmers didn't come up with an alternative to diesel? There was for a time conversions for used cooking oil until companies started paying restaurants for their used cooking oil and they quit giving it away.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,287 posts)
14. It wouldn't make much sense to have to recharge the batteries every time they run down.
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 10:29 AM
Jul 2021

What I envision is a quick change rack design that would allow quick change out of the exhausted batteries with a fully charged rack.

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