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Related: About this forumWhy The South Is Decades Ahead Of The West In Wildfire Prevention
In early May, flames began to spread through a pine forest, consuming a dense carpet of leaves and underbrush. The burn was the definition of a "good fire," intentionally ignited to clear vegetation that could fuel future infernos.
It happened in the state leading the nation in controlled burns: Florida.
As Western states contend with increasingly catastrophic wildfires, some are looking to the Southeastern U.S., where prescribed fire is widespread thanks to policies put in place decades ago. From 1998 to 2018, 70% of all controlled burning in the country was in the Southeast.
While a continent apart, both regions have a similar need for fire. For thousands of years, forests and woodlands experienced regular burning, both sparked by lightning and used by Native American tribes, which prevented the build up of flammable growth. Without fire, the landscape is prone to intense, potentially devastating wildfires.
https://www.npr.org/2021/08/31/1029821831/to-stop-extreme-wildfires-california-is-learning-from-florida
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Note: the Gatlinburg fires of 2016 were not "prescribed burns"!
House of Roberts
(5,162 posts)and we get enough rain here to make controlled burns safe and feasible. Most of the rain we get is Gulf moisture, distributed all over the southern states by natural upper level airflows.
You can't have a controlled burn with the tinderbox conditions out West.
jimfields33
(15,682 posts)I guess the south is doing a great job in this department.
demosincebirth
(12,529 posts)CousinIT
(9,218 posts)starts a massive fire.
And the lack of rain out West all or most of the Winter (ie: for months) causes that dryness and thus fires get sparked - very easily.
California gets its rains in winter (when there isn't a drought going on) so the timing would have to be different.
CousinIT
(9,218 posts)Last Winter very little rain and not nearly enough snow in the Sierras.
But I'm not a meteorologist, environmentalist or a fire expert either.
demosincebirth
(12,529 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)between the southeast and CA and the pacific northwest are vastly different as is the type and scope of the forests. In Oregon at the end of last summer we were experiencing days of triple digit temperature with relative humidity in th low teens matching death vally on some days.. The already drought stricken dry forests were dried out even more by these conditions and high winds. A single ember can travel and ingnite a firestorm with days of high wind conditions.
modrepub
(3,491 posts)It actually happens a lot. It's enough to impact local air quality.
Here's an example of Ag burning in the sugar cane fields in FL. Probably contributes to asthma issues for the locals.
quaint
(2,551 posts)We've had some significant challenges. This year, this prescribed burn season which is typically January through May, because of how dry things have been, we really had to slow down in order to manage the risk of any kind of escape, he says.
I'm a native Southern Californian who has witnessed winds drive prescribed burns out of control.
hunter
(38,302 posts)Native Americans practiced fire management resulting in a huge patchwork quilt of recently burned land that may have inhibited the sort of monster fires we see today.
And things probably got out of control in their own fire management schemes at times as well, especially in periods of drought.
The social consequences of prescribed burns going out of control weren't any different 2,000 years ago than they are today.
A home lost to fire is a home lost to fire. A life lost to fire is a life lost to fire.
Fire management in California is not comparable to fire management in the South.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)How a retired firefighter saved his own life in Gatlinburg wildfire.
https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/tennessee/2016/12/18/preparation-saved-home-sevier-county-fire/95463706/
Note of apology: Sorry for my delayed response here. I've an embarrassing # of browser tabs opened & just now found this unposted response. Even worse: there are others.
Blaming my dementia.