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FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 03:06 PM Jan 2012

Nuclear Nimbyism - Germans Oppose New Plants Next Door

Less than a year after securing the rapid phaseout of nuclear plants in Germany, citizens concerned about nuclear safety are facing the unwholesome prospect of new plants popping up just over the border in neighboring countries. But they aren't letting it happen without a fight. After Poland announced several possible locations for new reactors, including one less than 150 kilometers (93 miles) from the German border, German citizens flooded the Polish government with letters objecting to the plans. Environmental groups claim that a week ago Wednesday alone, the last day of the comment period, opponents of the plans submitted 50,000 objections.

...snip...

Poland is not the only source of German concern. On Tuesday, the governing coalition of the state of North Rhine-Westphalia -- comprised of the center-left Social Democrats and the Green Party -- announced its intention to object formally to the construction of a new nuclear reactor in neighboring Holland. The proposed Borssele II plant would be located 180 kilometers from the North Rhine-Westphalia border. Environment Minister Johannes Remmel of the Greens said the plant posed "indefensible risks," and the state government intends to urge the Netherlands to undertake an "intensive investigation of alternatives."

...snip...

Now, with more reactors being built by Germany's neighbors, nuclear power may become difficult to avoid. "If other countries are developing nuclear power, it raises the question: In an integrated European energy network, to what extent is it really non-nuclear?" said Schreurs.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,808794,00.html

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friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
1. They're happy enough to buy nuclear-generated electricity from France.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 03:54 PM
Jan 2012

I await the announcement that Germany will no longer do so. In the meantime, I will be reading my way through the entire
Boston Public Library...

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
2. "The German protest could lend support to Dutch protesters who are opposed to nuclear power"
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 05:35 PM
Jan 2012

NIMBYism is hardly a description for what is in that Der Speigel article. Germany is ending their nuclear program.

FSSF

(17 posts)
3. I'd say they have good reason to complain.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 07:25 PM
Jan 2012

The only reason for building them near borders is to shift a significant portion of the risk onto German citizens who get much less of the benefits.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
6. Really? That's the only reason you can think of?
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 08:13 PM
Jan 2012

Holland's (for instance) would have to be built in the Atlantic ocean to be much farther from Germany.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
4. Hopefully, Poland will come to its senses and abandon their nuclear plans.
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 07:27 PM
Jan 2012

The Germans have every right to be upset about this.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
5. So if you decide to switch from Bermuda to Fescue...
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 08:06 PM
Jan 2012

... you have every right to be upset if your neighbor refuses to redo his lawn as well?

Germany has tried twice in the last century to make the rest of Europe obey them.

Hasn't worked out so well.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
8. Bermuda grass never caused a whole province to be uninhabitable forever
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 08:19 AM
Jan 2012

File that one under "weak analogies".

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
9. Uninhabitable forever?
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 09:48 AM
Jan 2012

File that one under "unfounded hyperbole"

Regardless... Lots of things have caused great swaths of land to be uninhabitable. That doesn't give another nation the right to decide whether or not you can make the decision yourself.

Germany's decades of coal mining/burning have done more than their fair share of environmental damage (more than Holland's reactors will ever do)... Yet Holland has no business telling Germany that they will not permit it.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
13. What's actually "cute" is the combination of your compulsion to post...
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 03:46 PM
Jan 2012

... when you run out of anything approaching a valid point.

The province that Chernobyl is in has about two million inhabitants. Clearly refuting the nonsense that entire provinces become "uninhabitable"... let alone "forever".

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