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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 08:48 PM Aug 2013

Debunking the Renewables “Disinformation Campaign”

Debunking the Renewables “Disinformation Campaign”


According to Fox Business reporter Shibani Joshi, renewables are successful in Germany and not in the U.S. because Germany has “got a lot more sun than we do.” Sure, California might get sun now and then, Joshi conceded during her now-infamous flub, "but here on the East Coast, it's just not going to work." (She recanted the next day while adding new errors.)

Actually, Germany gets only about as much annual sun as Seattle or Alaska; its sunniest region gets less sun than almost anywhere in the lower 48 states. This underscores an important point: solar power works and competes not only in the sunniest places, but in some pretty cloudy places, too.

A PERVASIVE PATTERN
The Fox Business example is not a singular incident. Some mainstream media around the world have a tendency to publish misinformed or, worse, systematically and falsely negative stories about renewable energy. Some of those stories’ misinformation looks innocent, due to careless reporting, sloppy fact checking, and perpetuation of old myths. But other coverage walks, or crosses, the dangerous line of a disinformation campaign—a persistent pattern of coverage meant to undermine renewables’ strong market reality. This has become common enough in mainstream media that some researchers have focused their attention on this balance of accurate and positive coverage vs. inaccurate and negative coverage.

Tim Holmes, researcher for the U.K.’s Public Interest Research Centre (PIRC), points out press coverage is important because it can influence not only “what people perceive and believe” but also “what politicians think they believe.” PIRC’s 2011 study of renewable energy media coverage surveyed how four of the highest-circulation British daily newspapers reported on renewables during July 2009. A newspaper’s balance of positive and negative renewables coverage tended to align with its editorial ideology. The difference was astounding. In one instance, negative coverage of renewables was just 2.5 percent; in another, upwards of 75 percent.

A follow-up 2012 study by public relations consultancy CCGroup examined five of the most-read newspapers in the U.K. during July 2012. Researchers found more than 51 percent of the articles featuring renewables were negative, 21 percent positive...


http://blog.rmi.org/blog_2013_07_31_debunking_renewables_disinformation_campaign

Sad to say that this progressive forum is a prolific outlet for this same disinformation.
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Debunking the Renewables “Disinformation Campaign” (Original Post) kristopher Aug 2013 OP
Yes, it is sad. I've had those trying to convince me that nuclear is green, mbperrin Aug 2013 #1
Log into EE on any given day and it will be filled with that same anti-renewable crap... kristopher Aug 2013 #2
It's a wonder you hang out so much on such a hate-filled forum. GliderGuider Aug 2013 #4
Kick kristopher Aug 2013 #3
Eh, try some information Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #5
Good data, but bad spin on your part kristopher Aug 2013 #6

mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
1. Yes, it is sad. I've had those trying to convince me that nuclear is green,
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 08:52 PM
Aug 2013

the wind might not blow, and solar is just well, somehow it won't work.

I live right in the middle of some huge wind farms, and I really enjoy my 7.2 cents per KWH bill, down from 20 cents from our old provider, TU.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
2. Log into EE on any given day and it will be filled with that same anti-renewable crap...
Fri Aug 2, 2013, 12:02 AM
Aug 2013

...that you routinely hear from virtually every rightwing group in the world.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
4. It's a wonder you hang out so much on such a hate-filled forum.
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 08:29 PM
Aug 2013

Your commitment to the cause is duly acknowledged.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
5. Eh, try some information
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 10:37 PM
Aug 2013
http://www.ise.fraunhofer.de/en/downloads-englisch/pdf-files-englisch/news/electricity-production-from-solar-and-wind-in-germany-in-2013.pdf

That's actually in English. Tons of info. You can see how solar/wind isn't providing baseload, and how brown coal is compensating for the decreased nuclear power. The hard coal is being used more to comp for the grid swings with the solar.

Germany has worked itself into quite a corner, and I now think that Japan will be the first nation to used the newer technologies with some degree of success. Japan already has a ton of pumped storage plants to help with the balancing problem.

Germany's big mistake was building the production facilities without the storage or transmission infrastructure.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
6. Good data, but bad spin on your part
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 04:28 AM
Aug 2013

A renewable based distributed grid doesn't rely on "baseload" as that is nothing more than an economic construct of centralized power generation. It is not a technical requirement for delivering energy to the final user.

Germany isn't "in a corner", it is accomplishing a rapid transition from a centralized thermal coal and nuclear based generating system to a distributed system.

Your nuclear loving ass wants to paint it in a bad light - go figure.

Read OP.

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