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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 08:26 AM Aug 2013

Veterans blame planes used to spray Agent Orange for illnesses

http://kdhnews.com/news/nation/veterans-blame-planes-used-to-spray-agent-orange-for-illnesses/article_55859b6c-fd8b-11e2-b118-0019bb30f31a.html



A dismantled C-123 is seen in 2010 at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Tuscon, Ariz. Many of the Vietnam War-era planes were melted down, in part because of concerns about potential Agent Orange liability, Air Force memos show.

Veterans blame planes used to spray Agent Orange for illnesses
Posted: Monday, August 5, 2013 4:30 am
By Steve Vogel / The Washington Post

WASHINGTON — Nearly three dozen rugged C-123 transport planes formed the backbone of the U.S. military’s campaign to spray Agent Orange over jungles hiding enemy soldiers during the Vietnam War. And many of the troops who served in the conflict were compensated for diseases associated with their exposure to the toxic defoliant.

But after the war, some of the planes were used on cargo missions in the United States. Now a bitter fight has sprung up over whether those in the military who worked, ate and slept in the planes after the war also should be compensated. Two U.S. senators are now questioning the Department of Veterans Affairs’ assertions that any postwar contamination on the planes was not high enough to be linked to disease.

Complicating the debate is that few of the planes remain to be tested. In 2010, the Air Force destroyed 18 of the Vietnam-era aircraft in part because of concerns about potential liability for Agent Orange, according to Air Force memos documenting the destruction.

Citing tests done on some of the aircraft in the 1990s, North Carolina Sen. Richard Burr, the ranking Republican on the Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee, and Sen. Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., have asked the VA’s Office of Inspector General to review whether the department is “inappropriately” denying disability compensation to veterans who claim they were sickened by postwar contamination.

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Veterans blame planes used to spray Agent Orange for illnesses (Original Post) unhappycamper Aug 2013 OP
Having known one of the veterans who was exposed to Agent Orange and as the years went on Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #1
My father died JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #2
Unfortunate my friend also passed away a few years back, they were treated very badly. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #4
They killed me in Vietnam, and I didn't even know. DreamGypsy Aug 2013 #3
'in part because of concerns about potential liability' Link Speed Aug 2013 #5

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Having known one of the veterans who was exposed to Agent Orange and as the years went on
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 08:35 AM
Aug 2013

new health conditions emerged, he lost his hearing, sight and skin color changed. He is deceased but he did suffer.

JustAnotherGen

(31,769 posts)
2. My father died
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 08:46 AM
Aug 2013

A horrible death. And now we are finding out that its in our DNA. It alters our bodies. I have a very very dear friend of mine - 3 years younger than me. . . Nhu was born in Vietnam in a rural area. Her dad died the same horrific death my dad did (he worked with us over there) 6 months ago.

The thing is - that with all of those illnesses - most of our Vets from the 60's and 70's that were deep in Central/South America and South East Asia have no idea . . . they can go back and get full disability for ALL the years they paid for the odd ball Hepatitis diagnosis, vision issues, hearing issue, heart disease, intestinal issues, liver issues . . .

My dad had partial beginning in 1998. The fed went back and reviewed in October 2011 (he died August 2011) and gave then entire amount back to my mom from 1978 (when the health issues with his liver first appeared and my parents paid out of pocket) and increased her widow's disability benes.

Spread the word . . . they've spent hand over fist for 30/40 years what we should have taken care of for them as Americans.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
3. They killed me in Vietnam, and I didn't even know.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 10:43 AM
Aug 2013

Kate Wolf's emotional song about Agent Orange.

Audio is available on this KateWolfMusic MySpace page - worth listening.

Agent Orange by Kate Wolf

I was seventeen when I quit school, the year that I enlisted
I don't recall just why I did, my Mom says I insisted
I had some strange idea then, that Uncle Sam was right
My Mama cried, she signed the card, and I went off to fight.
But I just found out this morning, the Doctor told me so,
They killed me in Vietnam and I didn't even know.

Got off the plane in Vietnam, it didn't look like war
With all I saw, I started wondering, just what we came here for.
Some Officers got drunk at night and cheated on their wives
While those peasants on the other side, were fighting for their lives.
You know the army tried some fancy stuff, to bring them to their knees
Like Agent Orange defoliant, to clear the brush and trees
We'd fly all day above the trails, through clouds of poison spray
But they never said that chemical, would hurt our health today.
But I got the news this morning, the Doctor told me so,
They killed me in Vietnam and I didn't even know.

Well I tried hard to forget that war, like everybody else did
I settled down, got married and I even had some kids
Our children both had birth defects, the Doctors had their doubts
They never said what caused it, but I think I just found out.
Because I just found out this morning, the Doctor told me so,
They killed me in Vietnam and I didn't even know.

The Doctor says I have some time, he was trying to be kind
You know, I've never been a radical, but this has changed my mind
I'd be so proud to hear my sons say "Hell no, we won't go!"
"Because you killed our Dad in Vietnam, and he didn't even know."
This Agent Orange from Vietnam, we carry with us still
It stays inside for years and years, and does its best to kill
You might get cancer of the liver, you might get cancer of the skin
You might get a VA Disability, you might not live to win.
Because I got the news this morning, the Doctor told me so
They killed me in Vietnam and I didn't even know.
They killed me in Vietnam and I didn't even know.
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