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Related: About this forumIPCC report leaked: global warming impacts are speeding up.
"The Fifth and hopefully final Assessment Report (AR5) from the UN Intergovernmental Panel On Climate Change (IPCC) is due next month. The leaks are already here:"
That is up from at least 90 percent in the last report in 2007, 66 percent in 2001, and just over 50 in 1995, steadily squeezing out the arguments by a small minority of scientists that natural variations in the climate might be to blame.
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"So the alarming disruption in our previously stable, civilization-supporting climate depicted in the top figure is our future. On our current emissions path, the main question the ECS answers is whether 9°F warming happens closer to 2080, 2100, or 2120 hardly a cause for any celebration. Quite the reverse. Warming beyond 7F is incompatible with organized global community, is likely to be beyond adaptation, is devastating to the majority of ecosystems & has a high probability of not being stable (i.e. 4°C [7F] would be an interim temperature on the way to a much higher equilibrium level, as climate expert Kevin Anderson explains here.
Dr. Michael Mann emailed me:"
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/08/18/2484711/ipcc-report-more-certain-global-warming-is-caused-by-humans-impacts-speeding-up/
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)wtmusic
(39,166 posts)I don't think we can overemphasize that, or how critical taking action is becoming.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)joshcryer
(62,269 posts)We're fucked.
CrispyQ
(36,457 posts)About five years ago I told my husband, "Hon, we're gonna exit this planet in the nick of time." Now, every week I read articles stating that 'things are accelerating faster than our models predicted," & I'm not so sure anymore. Future generations will look back to this period & shake their heads wondering how we were so stupid. Sometimes I wonder if we would be on a more sustainable path if Carter had won in 1980? I remember being sad, but not surprised, when Reagan had the solar panels removed from the WH. We've squandered precious years & now it's too late.
NickB79
(19,233 posts)Good. I fear too many people have gotten complacent looking at reports that say "by the end of this century" when in reality, the planet will keep warming for CENTURIES to come even if we manage to stabilize CO2 concentrations at current levels.
pscot
(21,024 posts)Our annual output of emissions keeps increasing:
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)How anybody can be a climate change denier is beyond me. Unfortunately, my rep, Dana Rohrabacher, is one of those idiots.
The problem is so huge and so daunting...and the Republicans have made sure we don't even have a functioning Congress.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)CRH
(1,553 posts)would print an honest graph or model similar to the graph in the OP produced by Science and ClimateProgress.org. - That would get the attention of a few people, BAU produces a rising global temperature with no plateau in sight.
No quick plateau, equals mass extinctions, humans included. What does the time line matter, whether it is fifty years or a couple of centuries.
K&R
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)in its projections.
Good science is conservative, but in situations where immediate action may be critical there has to be a lower standard of proof. That's exactly what the petroleum industry and their army of deniers is exploiting.
CRH
(1,553 posts)will lead to the IPCC being more conservative? My goodness, double speak is alive and well.
Please do expand on your thoughts, so I might ascertain if you are pulling my leg.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)CRH
(1,553 posts)My mistake.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)I know wtmute gets crap for their position on nuclear but I think it's true that scientists are reluctant to tell the full story because they get shit on for it. Just look at how the media treated Wadams' paper, when he was basing his entire argument on science that the other scientists were ignorant of.
NickB79
(19,233 posts)Haven't you heard the new denier talking point yet? We're saved!
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)hatrack
(59,583 posts)There, I think that should cover it.