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Four Charts That Prove the Future of Clean Energy Is Arriving (Original Post) kristopher Sep 2013 OP
These charts show how the trajectory of coal use worldwide is set to change. kristopher Sep 2013 #1
The OP is excellent news for the US but your reply title is wishful thinking for the RoW. Nihil Sep 2013 #2
Wishful thinking has nothing to do with it kristopher Sep 2013 #3

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
1. These charts show how the trajectory of coal use worldwide is set to change.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 05:05 PM
Sep 2013

The trends documented are key to replacing coal in developed, developing and hoping-to-start-developing countries.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
2. The OP is excellent news for the US but your reply title is wishful thinking for the RoW.
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 04:34 AM
Sep 2013

To lift a quote from http://www.democraticunderground.com/112754443
> Our reduction in US coal consumption appears to match up almost perfectly
> with the increase in US coal exports.

And the rest of the world isn't buying US coal to sequester it.

Yes, the trends shown in the OP are excellent and those trends are indeed
key to replacing coal elsewhere but no matter how good the US energy trend
is, mining & exporting (*) all of the coal that you're no longer burning is only
an accounting exercise on a global scale.



Still, thanks for posting it as partial good news is still good news.



(*) = i.e., instead of leaving it in situ - the only long-term proven method of
carbon sequestration on the planet.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
3. Wishful thinking has nothing to do with it
Tue Sep 24, 2013, 04:54 AM
Sep 2013

The economic edge that coal has enjoyed is already being eroded steadily on a variety of fronts and the inflection points demonstrated by the graphs are significant for its economics worldwide. For example, China is turning away from it in favor of renewables; the World Bank has determined to stop funding coal projects, and countries without a grid are skipping the entire concept of centralized generation - which is the key to any country expanding dependence on coal.

The stat quoted about coal exports is a data point on a trend line, and it isn't a trend line that is set to continue its upward trajectory.

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