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Related: About this forumYellowstone supervolcano 'even more colossal'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25312674Hot springs are surface evidence of the huge magma chamber that sits beneath Yellowstone
The supervolcano that lies beneath Yellowstone National Park in the US is far larger than was previously thought, scientists report.
A study shows that the magma chamber is about 2.5 times bigger than earlier estimates suggested.
A team found the cavern stretches for more than 90km (55 miles) and contains 200-600 cubic km of molten rock.
The findings are being presented at the American Geophysical Union Fall Meeting in San Francisco.
Tansy_Gold
(17,847 posts)...chock full of cheery news this morning, aren't you? Fires in Detroit, supervolcanoes in Yellowstone.
Have a nice day!
xchrom
(108,903 posts)southmost
(759 posts)Tansy_Gold
(17,847 posts)... in my bedroom window and takin' pictures!
phantom power
(25,966 posts)SunSeeker
(51,512 posts)MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)I'd say the majority of the hemisphere.
SunSeeker
(51,512 posts)I know I'd be toast here in California. I remember watching a documentary on the Caldera a few years back. They found ash/rock here they identified as having come from the Caldera the last time it blew.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)or what to wear to work tomorrow. The Caldera blows and even Mother Gaia won't survive it. She'll survive global climate change but this would be the end of the earth. Ergo, pointless to talk about because it will happen or not whenever and then poof, life on earth is over.
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)Just most of the life on the planet would die.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)We wouldn't, but we won't anyway.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)We have despoiled it and need to go.
OnlinePoker
(5,717 posts)The volcano last blew 640,000 years ago and proto-humans managed to survive. What wouldn't survive very well is the global system of trade and industrial commerce. One advantage we have that proto-humans didn't is our knowledge base. Information about just about everything is global in nature so if one zone gets wiped out, others could carry on (with difficulty to be sure).
Hestia
(3,818 posts)on what did happen in the past and what would happen when the caldera blows.
1 - There is a bottleneck in human population about that same time. Scientists concluded that caldera killed a lot of people and we all are descended from the survivors of that time. It was so interesting to see the graphs about it. They had concluded that there was X number of people (I think several million people on earth at that time) and how many were left after the caldera blew - less than 500k.
2 - The ash alone would kill people, all the way to the Mississippi River. It would alter geography and weather patterns in the East/Northeast of the US.
[I hate the Nat Geo tag; I know it makes life easier to get to their site but puh-lease...]
jamejest
(37 posts)if that baby blows the amount of ash it will discharge into the atmosphere should negate global warming and allow us to reset one of
the clocks ticking on human extinction.
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)It will be an Extinction Level Event.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)What a way to go, huh?
An Ellie, like in the movie, which one was it, the half decent one or the craptastic one about a meteor about to hit the earth. Never can remember?
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)I do remember something about "Unobtanium" being the key to some sort of plan...or something.
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)But there was a movie years before that was universally panned by critics and viewers alike.
Someone designed a subterranean drill that was to reach the earths core for some stupid reason...and the only metal that could withstand the pressure, heat and bullshit hollywood writers was called "Unobtanium".
If I remember correctly.
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)dbackjon
(6,578 posts)That was the good movie about the meteor.
Armaggedeon was the craptastic one (IMHO)
tavalon
(27,985 posts)Armageddon was the craptastic one and Deep Impact, much better all around.
On the Road
(20,783 posts)why would the next one? Especially since there are more humans in more places on earth, better shielded from the elements and with much better technology.
MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)there are far too many of us.
But an "E.L.E." doesn't technically mean every last life form is gone. I could be wrong though. *shrugs*
Either way, it won't be very fun.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)I hate roaches but we have done far more damage to the earth than they have, so I guess they can have it.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)The ash falling on North America and wiping out civilization here is what will do it, since we are the ones doing the most to heat up the atmosphere.
The "nuclear winter" effect would just be an added bonus for Earth.
2naSalit
(86,328 posts)These guys produced this evidence over three years ago... maybe they were just making a public presentation about it and maybe it just got published... it can take years for the peer review.
When this one goes, there's no running fast enough of far enough away.
it's gonna leave a mark.
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Small earthquakes happen constantly at Yellowstone; however, once in a while there's an earthquake swarm (the last one happened in Sept., as I recall) and those make me a wee bit nervous.
2naSalit
(86,328 posts)I can see the park from my dwelling (about five miles from here) and I feel a lot of the quakes, including those from the most recent swarms and from a few years ago, whenever that was. We had several just outside the park a couple weeks ago too. When you live on top of something like that, it's something you notice when the ground starts to move. And for anyone who's geologically aware, the fact that our black sands (many of our dirt roads and sand near springs) are actually obsidian... it is hard to not consider it from time to time... thus my claim that there's no way to run from this one if it decides to go rapidly. I live right on top of it so I get it, knew it when I moved here.
niyad
(113,057 posts)the last time it blew:
The last major eruption, which occurred 640,000 years ago, sent ash across the whole of North America, affecting the planets climate.
could prove very interesting.
and i want to be ashes BEFORE this happens...
a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)Maybe? No?
Then I find this fascinating science
which is saying something because when I first heard about this 13 years ago, it gave me nightmares for months.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)my circuits blow and I just can't get scared.
a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)I'm more concerned that my neighbors trash can collection might some day topple over and kill me while I'm walking my dogs in the yard. That's far more likely. Or that I might get murdered by a disgruntled college student. That's even more likely (and actually more nerve-wracking). Those things don't even concern me.
That Yellowstone could erupt in my lifetime- no more than 60 years left in all likelihood- would be like winning (or losing, I guess) the geological lottery. I guess I'd hope that by that point, I'd be living in South America.
As long as it doesn't happen before August
I need to see Europe before I die. I don't think that's asking too much of the universe. I've already attained all of my other goals.
lastlib
(23,152 posts)(not that it matters--if she blows, we all buy the big ticket to extinction. The ones who didn't die immediately would probably wish they had.)
bvar22
(39,909 posts)I'm making an asbestos surf board,
and plan on riding the Lava Wave to Atlantis.
MuseRider
(34,095 posts)or something like that!
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)pscot
(21,024 posts)live downwind.
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)Kablooie
(18,610 posts)Check out Ashfall by Mike Mullin.
It's a young adult novel set in the aftermath of Yellowstone exploding and is pretty stressful.
It's a trilogy. The second novel isn't quite as good but still interesting.
He's still working on the final one.