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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 10:01 AM Dec 2013

Yellowstone supervolcano 'even more colossal'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25312674


Hot springs are surface evidence of the huge magma chamber that sits beneath Yellowstone


The supervolcano that lies beneath Yellowstone National Park in the US is far larger than was previously thought, scientists report.

A study shows that the magma chamber is about 2.5 times bigger than earlier estimates suggested.

A team found the cavern stretches for more than 90km (55 miles) and contains 200-600 cubic km of molten rock.

The findings are being presented at the American Geophysical Union Fall Meeting in San Francisco.
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Yellowstone supervolcano 'even more colossal' (Original Post) xchrom Dec 2013 OP
You're just.... Tansy_Gold Dec 2013 #1
just call me Miss Happy GoLucky xchrom Dec 2013 #3
<3 this pic made my day southmost Dec 2013 #4
You've been peeking.... Tansy_Gold Dec 2013 #32
! xchrom Dec 2013 #33
more colossal than expected phantom power Dec 2013 #2
Dayum. If it blew, half the U.S. would be covered in ash. nt SunSeeker Dec 2013 #5
Half the U.S.? MynameisBlarney Dec 2013 #8
Probably. SunSeeker Dec 2013 #25
Actually, if it blew, we would no longer have to worry about global climate change tavalon Dec 2013 #12
No, not the end of the Earth. MynameisBlarney Dec 2013 #17
It's blown before, she survived. MNBrewer Dec 2013 #18
Good point. I'm glad. Earth is beautiful tavalon Dec 2013 #20
Pockets of humanity would OnlinePoker Dec 2013 #36
Back when Nat'l Geographic was doing real documentaries and not reality shows, they had a special Hestia Dec 2013 #22
To look on the bright side jamejest Dec 2013 #6
I am pretty sure MynameisBlarney Dec 2013 #9
Yes, I'm fairly sure you are correct tavalon Dec 2013 #14
I can't remember either, lol MynameisBlarney Dec 2013 #21
That was "Avatar" dbackjon Dec 2013 #27
It was used in Avatar MynameisBlarney Dec 2013 #30
Ah yes...I remember now. MynameisBlarney Dec 2013 #31
Deep Impact, starring Tea Leoni, Morgan Freeman, etc dbackjon Dec 2013 #26
Your opinion and mine coincide tavalon Dec 2013 #41
If The Last One Didn't Kill Homo Sapiens, On the Road Dec 2013 #34
It probably won't MynameisBlarney Dec 2013 #35
Nope, the roaches will likely survive tavalon Dec 2013 #42
The atmospheric ash wouldn't be what saves the planet. kestrel91316 Dec 2013 #11
People are just finding this out now? 2naSalit Dec 2013 #7
Here's a site I have bookmarked theHandpuppet Dec 2013 #40
I know 2naSalit Dec 2013 #43
okayyyyyy--so this thing is twice as large as previously thought. and THIS is what happened niyad Dec 2013 #10
yes MFM008 Dec 2013 #37
Is it going to erupt tomorrow? a la izquierda Dec 2013 #13
It's weird but when something is so big and so inevitable but has no time table, tavalon Dec 2013 #15
I think that's it, actually. a la izquierda Dec 2013 #19
On the bright side, it's under the red states......... lastlib Dec 2013 #16
Where ya gonna go when the Volcano Blow? bvar22 Dec 2013 #23
Don't hang 10 MuseRider Dec 2013 #29
Don't wanna land on no Three Mile Island... don't wanna see my skin aglow! lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #38
Jimmy Buffet rules madokie Dec 2013 #44
I'm glad I don't pscot Dec 2013 #24
That should be one hell of a show when she blows liberal N proud Dec 2013 #28
If you want to get a feel of what it may be like when it blows... Kablooie Dec 2013 #39

Tansy_Gold

(17,847 posts)
1. You're just....
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 10:03 AM
Dec 2013

...chock full of cheery news this morning, aren't you? Fires in Detroit, supervolcanoes in Yellowstone.

Have a nice day!




SunSeeker

(51,512 posts)
25. Probably.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 02:18 PM
Dec 2013

I know I'd be toast here in California. I remember watching a documentary on the Caldera a few years back. They found ash/rock here they identified as having come from the Caldera the last time it blew.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
12. Actually, if it blew, we would no longer have to worry about global climate change
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:41 PM
Dec 2013

or what to wear to work tomorrow. The Caldera blows and even Mother Gaia won't survive it. She'll survive global climate change but this would be the end of the earth. Ergo, pointless to talk about because it will happen or not whenever and then poof, life on earth is over.

OnlinePoker

(5,717 posts)
36. Pockets of humanity would
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 04:05 PM
Dec 2013

The volcano last blew 640,000 years ago and proto-humans managed to survive. What wouldn't survive very well is the global system of trade and industrial commerce. One advantage we have that proto-humans didn't is our knowledge base. Information about just about everything is global in nature so if one zone gets wiped out, others could carry on (with difficulty to be sure).

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
22. Back when Nat'l Geographic was doing real documentaries and not reality shows, they had a special
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 01:10 PM
Dec 2013

on what did happen in the past and what would happen when the caldera blows.

1 - There is a bottleneck in human population about that same time. Scientists concluded that caldera killed a lot of people and we all are descended from the survivors of that time. It was so interesting to see the graphs about it. They had concluded that there was X number of people (I think several million people on earth at that time) and how many were left after the caldera blew - less than 500k.

2 - The ash alone would kill people, all the way to the Mississippi River. It would alter geography and weather patterns in the East/Northeast of the US.

[I hate the Nat Geo tag; I know it makes life easier to get to their site but puh-lease...]

jamejest

(37 posts)
6. To look on the bright side
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:20 PM
Dec 2013

if that baby blows the amount of ash it will discharge into the atmosphere should negate global warming and allow us to reset one of
the clocks ticking on human extinction.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
14. Yes, I'm fairly sure you are correct
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:43 PM
Dec 2013

What a way to go, huh?

An Ellie, like in the movie, which one was it, the half decent one or the craptastic one about a meteor about to hit the earth. Never can remember?

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
21. I can't remember either, lol
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 01:05 PM
Dec 2013

I do remember something about "Unobtanium" being the key to some sort of plan...or something.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
30. It was used in Avatar
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 03:12 PM
Dec 2013

But there was a movie years before that was universally panned by critics and viewers alike.
Someone designed a subterranean drill that was to reach the earths core for some stupid reason...and the only metal that could withstand the pressure, heat and bullshit hollywood writers was called "Unobtanium".
If I remember correctly.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
26. Deep Impact, starring Tea Leoni, Morgan Freeman, etc
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 02:43 PM
Dec 2013

That was the good movie about the meteor.


Armaggedeon was the craptastic one (IMHO)

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
41. Your opinion and mine coincide
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 12:28 PM
Dec 2013

Armageddon was the craptastic one and Deep Impact, much better all around.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
34. If The Last One Didn't Kill Homo Sapiens,
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 03:46 PM
Dec 2013

why would the next one? Especially since there are more humans in more places on earth, better shielded from the elements and with much better technology.

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
35. It probably won't
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 04:03 PM
Dec 2013

there are far too many of us.

But an "E.L.E." doesn't technically mean every last life form is gone. I could be wrong though. *shrugs*
Either way, it won't be very fun.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
42. Nope, the roaches will likely survive
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 12:30 PM
Dec 2013

I hate roaches but we have done far more damage to the earth than they have, so I guess they can have it.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
11. The atmospheric ash wouldn't be what saves the planet.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:39 PM
Dec 2013

The ash falling on North America and wiping out civilization here is what will do it, since we are the ones doing the most to heat up the atmosphere.

The "nuclear winter" effect would just be an added bonus for Earth.

2naSalit

(86,328 posts)
7. People are just finding this out now?
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:22 PM
Dec 2013

These guys produced this evidence over three years ago... maybe they were just making a public presentation about it and maybe it just got published... it can take years for the peer review.

When this one goes, there's no running fast enough of far enough away.







it's gonna leave a mark.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
40. Here's a site I have bookmarked
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 08:39 AM
Dec 2013
http://www.seis.utah.edu/req2webdir/recenteqs/

Small earthquakes happen constantly at Yellowstone; however, once in a while there's an earthquake swarm (the last one happened in Sept., as I recall) and those make me a wee bit nervous.

2naSalit

(86,328 posts)
43. I know
Fri Dec 13, 2013, 03:20 AM
Dec 2013

I can see the park from my dwelling (about five miles from here) and I feel a lot of the quakes, including those from the most recent swarms and from a few years ago, whenever that was. We had several just outside the park a couple weeks ago too. When you live on top of something like that, it's something you notice when the ground starts to move. And for anyone who's geologically aware, the fact that our black sands (many of our dirt roads and sand near springs) are actually obsidian... it is hard to not consider it from time to time... thus my claim that there's no way to run from this one if it decides to go rapidly. I live right on top of it so I get it, knew it when I moved here.

niyad

(113,057 posts)
10. okayyyyyy--so this thing is twice as large as previously thought. and THIS is what happened
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:39 PM
Dec 2013

the last time it blew:



The last major eruption, which occurred 640,000 years ago, sent ash across the whole of North America, affecting the planet’s climate.

could prove very interesting.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
13. Is it going to erupt tomorrow?
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:41 PM
Dec 2013

Maybe? No?

Then I find this fascinating science…which is saying something because when I first heard about this 13 years ago, it gave me nightmares for months.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
15. It's weird but when something is so big and so inevitable but has no time table,
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:44 PM
Dec 2013

my circuits blow and I just can't get scared.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
19. I think that's it, actually.
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 01:02 PM
Dec 2013

I'm more concerned that my neighbors trash can collection might some day topple over and kill me while I'm walking my dogs in the yard. That's far more likely. Or that I might get murdered by a disgruntled college student. That's even more likely (and actually more nerve-wracking). Those things don't even concern me.

That Yellowstone could erupt in my lifetime- no more than 60 years left in all likelihood- would be like winning (or losing, I guess) the geological lottery. I guess I'd hope that by that point, I'd be living in South America.

As long as it doesn't happen before August…I need to see Europe before I die. I don't think that's asking too much of the universe. I've already attained all of my other goals.

lastlib

(23,152 posts)
16. On the bright side, it's under the red states.........
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 12:49 PM
Dec 2013

(not that it matters--if she blows, we all buy the big ticket to extinction. The ones who didn't die immediately would probably wish they had.)

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
23. Where ya gonna go when the Volcano Blow?
Wed Dec 11, 2013, 01:34 PM
Dec 2013


I'm making an asbestos surf board,
and plan on riding the Lava Wave to Atlantis.

Kablooie

(18,610 posts)
39. If you want to get a feel of what it may be like when it blows...
Thu Dec 12, 2013, 01:59 AM
Dec 2013

Check out Ashfall by Mike Mullin.
It's a young adult novel set in the aftermath of Yellowstone exploding and is pretty stressful.

It's a trilogy. The second novel isn't quite as good but still interesting.
He's still working on the final one.

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