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Thu Dec 26, 2013, 04:32 PM

 

Scientists Link Spike in Thyroid Disease to Fukushima Disaster

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=11203

...Well, not only do we know that the radiation has come here and that the greatest amounts were on the West Coast, but we also know in general that the people that are most susceptible to radiation exposure are the very young--the fetus, the infant, and the young child. A dose to an adult would not nearly be as harmful as the same dose to a fetus or a newborn. We also know that the thyroid gland is extremely susceptible to radiation. The thyroid gland is a gland--looks like a butterfly kind of wrapped around the throat. One of the chemicals that's in that radioactive mix is radioactive iodine. And when you ingest iodine, it goes immediately from the stomach to the bloodstream to the thyroid gland, where it attacks and kills cells.

So at the time we started the article, really the only data from 2011 that we had was on newborns with hypothyroidism. Every baby in this state, in this country, every newborn baby is tested for certain diseases, one of which is hypothyroidism. And we looked at California, which, of course, is the most populated state, and we looked at the changes in the rates of hypothyroidism for the nine months after Fukushima compared to the previous year, and we found a 26 percent increase in the rate of hypothyroidism... There are very few other known causes of hypothyroidism other than exposure to radioactive iodine, and the same thing for the thyroid cancer as well, which iodine also raises the risk of, things like diet, you know, not enough iodine, nonradioactive, in the diet. But that doesn't occur in the U.S. It's mostly in Third World countries. Other things, like whether it runs in one's family and so on. As far as a real reason--oh, and history of hypo--of a thyroid disease, which doesn't occur in newborns. They're newborn. Really, this is it....the doses in Japan are hundreds, thousands of times higher than they were on the West Coast. Unfortunately, there have really been no studies in Japan except for one, and that is one that's being done by the Fukushima Medical University. They haven't looked at hypothyroidism, but what they've done is this: they have taken 200,000 children under age 18 who live relatively close to Fukushima, and they tested for two things. The first they tested for was thyroid cancer. And they have found up to 59 children have thyroid cancer. In a normal population, it's very rare in children. In a normal--we would expect one or two. They have 59.

Second thing that they found is they through ultrasound look at the child's thyroid gland for precancerous lumps, you know, what they call cysts and nodules. And so far, 56 percent of children near Fukushima do in fact have a precancerous cyst or a nodule. And every year it gets higher--two years ago, 35 percent, last year 45 percent, this year 56 percent. Pretty soon we're going to find that almost every child in the area has a precancerous growth on their thyroid gland. And that is--to me that is a powerful statement about how dangerous this meltdown has been... Yes, of course the radiation gets diluted. It's most intense closest to Fukushima when it goes into the Pacific Ocean. And as it goes, you know, miles and miles, it gets more diluted. However, it does not mean that that radiation does not pose a health risk. All radiation poses a health risk, even at relatively low doses. And that's what we believe is happening in the West Coast right now, because it keeps coming and coming.

The other thing is that all these statements about the radiation is harmless is premature because the reactors are still not under control. They are still leaking. They are still spewing out these terrible poisons. Even a meltdown like Chernobyl in 1986, which again went around--like Fukushima, went around the globe and caused many, many people to become sick and die, it was over after a few weeks. They were able to dump dirt and sand and salt on the reactor and put a sarcophagus over it. Fukushima is still giving out radiation. It's still not under control. And that's almost three years later. And that--so any statement on health, especially that it doesn't pose risk, is very premature and really a disappointment that any official would say that.

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Response to Demeter (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 06:52 PM

1. JUNK SCIENCE!!!

Joseph Mangano is a NOTORIOUS purveyor of junk science.

Mangano used to run the "Tooth Fairy Project" that attempted to implicate nuclear power plants in all sorts of nefarious health maladies.

The Health Physics Society webpage used to carry a denouncement of the Tooth Fairy Project and told everyone to ignore what Mangano published.

Mangano and his sidekick Shermann published an article at CounterPunch, and the "cherry picking" of data to fudge the conclusion was so obvious ( they averaged over 10 weeks one side of the accident and 4 weeks on the other side ) that the CounterPunch statistician,Sprey, looked at the work and pronounced it a fraud.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/06/17/definitely-bachmann-over-weiner/

One of the CounterPunch critics pointed out that using four weeks before and ten weeks afterwards “looked like cherry-picking the data.” To overcome this potential bias, Sprey collated the death numbers for the ten week period before, then did the calculations comparing infant deaths for ten weeks before and ten weeks afterwards for the same eight cities. His result was a statistically insignificant difference in deaths per week before and after

Please, if you see a report on Fukushima, authored by Mangano or Shermann; please follow the advice of the National Academy of Science, and IGNORE anything they write as a probable FRAUD.

PamW

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Response to Demeter (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 07:09 PM

2. Mangano's self-serving lies

From the above, Mangano tells us that radiation is about the only cause of hypothyroidism:

There are very few other known causes of hypothyroidism other than exposure to radioactive iodine,

If one goes to ANY of the online medical information reference sites, one can find that the above is one of Mangano's self-serving LIES:

http://www.medicinenet.com/hypothyroidism/page3.htm#what_causes_hypothyroidism

Hypothyroidism is a very common condition. It is estimated that 3% to 5% of the population has some form of hypothyroidism. The condition is more common in women than in men,

From the Mayo Clinic:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hypothyroidism/DS00353/DSECTION=causes

When your thyroid doesn't produce enough hormones, the balance of chemical reactions in your body can be upset. There can be a number of causes, including autoimmune disease, treatment for hyperthyroidism, radiation therapy, thyroid surgery and certain medications.

So the readership here is again treated to another bout of MISINFORMATION courtesy of Joseph Mangano.

Mangano is following his well-worn tactic of zeroing in on what is a very common malady, so that there are statistics to show a large affected populace.

However, Mangano tells his readers a self-serving LIE which is that radiation is the only known cause of this malady or some other such nonsense.

You would think that Mangano would have some shame; having been shown to be a classic sham and charlatan, but as long as there are people he can fool and take advantage of with his lies; he keeps right on going.

PamW

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Response to PamW (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:07 PM

4. Since when is a "pre-cancerous nodule" equivalent to hypothyroidism?

 

Here in the Midwest, hypothyroidism is common throughout history, due to the low levels of iodine in local food and water and salt. My grandmother had it.

What she didn't have was cancer, ever.

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Response to Demeter (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:31 PM

7. They aren't "pre-cancerous nodules"

They're just nodules.

And 40% or more of kids have them. Not just in Fukushima.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:35 PM

8. Which is why their parents can't get insurance for their kids. I see.

 

Because Japanese actuaries have a horror of harmless nodules on the thyroids of infants exposed to the largest uncontrolled and continuing release of radiation in history....

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Response to Demeter (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:38 PM

10. Untrue.

I suspect you're thinking of a letter by some mother claiming that this was so... but it wouldn't have anything to do with nodules.

It's more likely that she just misunderstood that they simply don't sell cancer policies.

They checked kids that weren't anywhere near Fukushima... and their rate of thyroid cancer and nodules was actually higher (though not significantly so).

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Response to Demeter (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:04 PM

3. Concerning the author

 

Bio

Joseph Mangano MPH MBA is a health researcher, and Executive Director of the Radiation and Public Health Project (RPHP). The group is the only one in the U.S. with a specific mission of producing research on health hazards of nuclear reactors and weapons. Among Mangano's accomplishments are 32 medical journal articles, 53 newspaper editorials, 3 books, 27 press conferences on research findings, and testimony to 19 government agencies.


I'm sorry, but that doesn't sound like Junk Science to me.


This man has no reason to lie...his livelihood doesn't depend on it.

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Response to Demeter (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:23 PM

5. Did you forget the sarcasm icon?

Joseph Mangano MPH MBA is a health researcher, and Executive Director of the Radiation and Public Health Project (RPHP). The group is the only one in the U.S. with a specific mission of producing research on health hazards of nuclear reactors and weapons.

This man has no reason to lie...his livelihood doesn't depend on it.


When a guy works for an organization dedicated to showing that nuclear reactors are health hazards, I'd say his livelihood directly depends on it. It's like say a scientist that works for the tobacco industry doesn't have motivation to lie...

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Response to LouisvilleDem (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:29 PM

6. So, if a man is working to put himself out of business, he's a fake?

 

I think one of us is on the wrong side of the looking glass.



"Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions
destroyed." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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Response to Demeter (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:46 PM

11. Yes, one of is on the wrong side of the looking glass

RPHP is not funded by the nuclear industry. It is a non-profit dedicated to establishing the link between low level radiation exposure and increased cancer rates. In what way is he working to "put himself out of business"?

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Response to Demeter (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:36 PM

9. Of course his livelihood depends on it.

How do you think he earns a living?

If it doesn't "sound like junk science"... then you don't understand the term.

He's the poster child for selective data mining.

And for the record... an MPH is not a science degree (of course, an MBA isn't either).

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:52 PM

13. So shut down the nukes, and put him out of business!

 

Problem solved.

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Response to Demeter (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 09:19 AM

18. Junk science and junk journals

Last edited Fri Dec 27, 2013, 01:31 PM - Edit history (1)

If you do the research, you will find that practically all the journal articles published by Mangano are in a journal called, Journal of Environmental Toxicology.

That's Mangano's own journal; it's a journal he publishes himself in order to claim that he has lots of journal articles to impress people.

You need to look for publication in peer-reviewed journals that are associated with a scientific society. If someone is a chemist, then they publish in the Journal of the American Chemical Society, and they have the integrity of the ACS to make sure the quality of science is valid.

But look at what Mangano did with that CounterPunch article. I mean averaging over two different times in order to get different results before / after the Fukushima accident is just downright LAME. It was obvious cherry picking and people caught on to it right away.

NO legitimate scientist would be caught dead FUDGING data like that, and in such an obvious ham-handed method.

Mangano is NO scientist. He puts on the trappings to fool people who don't know real science when they see it.

PamW

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Response to Demeter (Original post)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 08:48 PM

12. CONFIRMED: 36 Percent Of Fukushima Kids Have Abnormal Thyroid Growths And Doctors Are In The Dark

 

Michael Kelley Jul. 19, 2012 Business Insider

http://www.businessinsider.com/fukushima-children-have-abnormal-thyroid-growths-2012-7

A few days ago we reported that 36 percent of Fukushima children have abnormal thyroid growths likely from radiation exposure, based on the "Fukushima Prefecture Health Management Survey." We got in touch with Australian pediatrician Dr. Helen Caldicott, who has spoken about the growths, to ask her about the implications of the study. After confirming the validity of the report, Caldicott reinforced the alarming nature of the findings:

1. "It is extremely rare to find cysts and thyroid nodules in children."

2. "This is an extremely large number of abnormalities to find in children."

3. "You would not expect abnormalities to appear so early — within the first year or so — therefore one can assume that they must have received a high dose of radiation."

4. "It is impossible to know, from what officials in Japan are saying, what these lesions are."

Doctors worry about these abnormal growths because even though thyroid nodules are relatively common, they are not as common in children and some of them could become cancerous.

When asked why these results haven't been widely reported, Calidcott noted that Japanese officials are not sharing ultrasound results with foremost experts of thyroid nodules in children and accused the media of "practicing psychic numbing," saying that she doesn't understand why media outlets are choosing to ignore the nuclear fallout. Caldicott explained that the high rate of abnormal growths in Fukushima children is very unusual — it usually takes five to 70 years to see what the medical implications of radiation are — and insisted that the international medical community become involved.

"The data should be made available. And they should be consulting with international experts ASAP. And the lesions on the ultrasounds should all be biopsied and they're not being biopsied. And if they're not being biopsied then that's ultimate medical irresponsibility. Because if some of these children have cancer and they're not treated they're going to die."


We also spoke with Dr. Bryan Haugen, president-elect of the American Thyroid Association and head of endocrinology at the University of Colorado School of Medicine, who hadn't heard of the report before we contacted him. Haugen agreed with the Caldicott's assessment that it is surprising for kids to "have this many nodules and cysts seen, especially this soon after the accident," and the fact that "this something that is not more widely known."

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After Chernobyl, Haugen notes, radiation physicists calculated the radiation risk to children by measuring exposure and then finding out how many kids had nodules and how many had cancer. Chernobyl children were found to have a lot of solid nodules, but the Fukushima results reveal a lot more cysts so "it's a bit different."

The New York Academy of Sciences estimates that nearly one million people around the world have died from exposure to radiation released by the 1986 nuclear disaster at the Chernobyl reactor. Haugen said that he hasn't read or heard about specific data on the Fukushima radiation risk or about comparisons between Fukushima and Chernobyl.

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Response to Demeter (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 09:25 PM

14. Thyroid Control Screening Reveals Much Higher Percentages of Cysts and Nodules...

...in Children Far Away from Fukushima

http://www.democraticunderground.com/112738245

Once again... Caldicott doesn't have a clue what she's talking about - (or is lying intentionally... but let's give her the benefit of the doubt).

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 09:31 PM

15. Since the entire nation was/is still subject to fallout

 

I tend to rely on the before-and-after data.

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Response to Demeter (Reply #15)

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 09:36 PM

16. No even close.

Nagasaki, for instance, is almost 1,000 miles away and not close to downwind. I131 has too short a half-life for there to be any significant exposure there.


I tend to rely on the before-and-after data.

You can't... because there is no before and after data.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #14)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 06:41 AM

17. I'll take what Caldicott is talking about

over the combination of the three, including you, pro nuclear people on this board has to say about this.

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Response to Demeter (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 09:25 AM

19. Caldicott is as bad as Mangano

Additionally, Caldicott attributed the Chernobyl study to being approved by the New York Academy. NO - they published it, but didn't verify it, and the New York Academy has said since that they do NOT validate that study.

http://www.nyas.org/Publications/Annals/Detail.aspx?cid=f3f3bd16-51ba-4d7b-a086-753f44b3bfc1

In no sense did Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences or the New York Academy of Sciences commission this work; nor by its publication does the Academy validate the claims made in the original Slavic language publications cited in the translated papers. Importantly, the translated volume has not been formally peer‐reviewed by the New York Academy of Sciences or by anyone else.

This was some "junk science" / lying on the part of Caldicott, that the New York Academy reviewed the work.

The New York Academy quite clearly denies above that they validated / reviewed the work, and said nobody has reviewed it.

JUNK SCIENCE

PamW

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Response to Demeter (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 11:04 AM

20. MISREPRESENTATION and LIES

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Quoted above
The New York Academy of Sciences estimates that nearly one million from exposure to radiation released by the 1986 nuclear disaster at the Chernobyl reactor.

The above is a MISREPRESENTATION. It is a LIE that Helen Caldicott told, and the New York Academy of Sciences has been DENYING it ever since:

http://www.nyas.org/Publications/Annals/Detail.aspx?cid=f3f3bd16-51ba-4d7b-a086-753f44b3bfc1

In no sense did Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences or the New York Academy of Sciences commission this work; nor by its publication does the Academy validate the claims made in the original Slavic language publications cited in the translated papers. Importantly, the translated volume has not been formally peer‐reviewed by the New York Academy of Sciences or by anyone else.

Journalist George Monbiot discusses the scientifically questionable methodology used to arrive at the conclusions in the original study:

http://www.monbiot.com/2011/04/04/evidence-meltdown/

A devastating review in the journal Radiation Protection Dosimetry points out that the book achieves its figure by the remarkable method of assuming that all increased deaths from a wide range of diseases – including many which have no known association with radiation – were caused by the accident(15). There is no basis for this assumption, not least because screening in many countries improved dramatically after the disaster and, since 1986, there have been massive changes in the former eastern bloc. The study makes no attempt to correlate exposure to radiation with the incidence of disease.

Besides, there is NEVER going to be another Chernobyl RBMK reactor built. People have to remember that Chernobyl was NOT primarily a nuclear power plant; Chernobyl was first and foremost a nuclear weapons materials production reactor. They just coupled the output heat to a power plant to make electricity. The USA did the same thing with the N Reactor at Hanford:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site

See all the Hanford reactors; B, D, F, H, DR, C, KW, and KE all discharged the heat energy they produced directly to the Columbia River. However, the N Reactor took that heat and ran it into a power plant in order to produce electricity, just like Chernobyl did.

Here's President Kennedy dedicating the N Reactor:

http://www.hanford.gov/page.cfm/NReactor



However, N Reactor and all other production reactors where shutdown in 1988 during the Reagan Administration. The DOE has enough weapons materials, and as DOE scientists learned how to use those materials more efficiently, it became apparent the USA has no need to produce more. The USA can maintain its nuclear weapons capability with the material it has on hand for over 150 years:

http://www.lasg.org/press/2012/NWMM_7Dec2012.html

So the USA isn't going to build anything remotely resembling the Chernobyl RBMK.

It's as if someone came out with a new study that said that a million people died in the crash of the Hindenberg. Big deal. We aren't going to build any more hydrogen-filled airships, and the vehicles that we will use like Boeing 777 aircraft have none of the bad characteristics of the Hindenberg.

Likewise, the Chernobyl RBMK reactor design was known prior to the accident as being "over-moderated" and hence unstable.

As far as good sources to quote with regard to radiation safety, RCHP and other self-appointed "watchdogs" are to be shunned because they have their own agendas and have shown that they will bias their studies to support their agendas.

Much better to rely on the professional societies. The science that deals with radiation protection is the science of "health physics". The Health Physics Society is the scientific organization that promotes high scientific integrity in that profession. One of the past Presidents of the Health Physics Society is Professor of Medicine, Prof. John Boice, Jr; who was the lead author of the National Cancer Institute study into the health effects of nuclear power plants published 20 years ago, and is currently being updated:

No Excess Mortality Risk Found in Counties with Nuclear Facilities

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/nuclear-facilities

Dr. Boice was the "go to" person that the US Congress called to give testimony with regard to the expected consequences of the Fukushima accident. Courtesy of the Health Physics Society, here is the testimony of Dr. Boice to Congress:

http://hps.org/documents/John_Boice_Testimony_13_May_2011.pdf

The health consequences for Japanese workers and public appear to be minor.

The health consequences for United States citizens are negligible to non-existent.

Those are the holdings of REAL SCIENTISTS with impeccable credentials; and not the self-serving pseudo-scientists like Mangano and Caldicott.

PamW

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Response to Demeter (Original post)

Sat Dec 28, 2013, 10:50 PM

21. Fukushima: Wave of Radiation Will Be Ten Times Bigger than All of the Radiation from Nuclear Tests C

Fukushima: Wave of Radiation Will Be Ten Times Bigger than All of the Radiation from Nuclear Tests Combined



Putting Fukushima In Perspective

There was no background radioactive cesium before above-ground nuclear testing and nuclear accidents started.

Wikipedia provides some details on the distribution of cesium-137 due to human activities:

Small amounts of caesium-134 and caesium-137 were released into the environment during nearly all nuclear weapon tests and some nuclear accidents, most notably the Chernobyl disaster.

Caesium-137 is unique in that it is totally anthropogenic. Unlike most other radioisotopes, caesium-137 is not produced from its non-radioactive isotope, but from uranium. It did not occur in nature before nuclear weapons testing began. By observing the characteristic gamma rays emitted by this isotope, it is possible to determine whether the contents of a given sealed container were made before or after the advent of atomic bomb explosions. This procedure has been used by researchers to check the authenticity of certain rare wines, most notably the purported “Jefferson bottles”.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/fukushima-wave-of-radiation-will-be-ten-times-bigger-than-all-of-the-radiation-from-nuclear-tests-combined/5362422

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