Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore tells US Senate there is "no proof" humans cause climate change

[NickB79]

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/greenpeace-cofounder-patrick-moore-tells-us-senate-there-is-no-proof-humans-cause-climate-change-9159627.html

The Greenpeace co-founder argued the increase in atmospheric temperature on the earth's surface goes back the Ice Age when C02 was "10 times higher than today, yet human life flourished" at this time.

And here I thought the last time CO2 levels were 4000 ppm was about 400 MILLION years ago. Oh, silly me. That must be part of the vast IPCC conspiracy.

Moore has officially gone off the deep end.

[OneBlueDotBama]

1. he left the path eons ago

As I recall, Greenpeace showed him the door in the mid 1980's, then he went to work for the BC forest industry.

[One_Life_To_Give]

2. There is no proof of Gravity either

That is why it is a theory and not a law. So both could be described as being more probable than not. And it's the best theory we have to gauge what the future potentially will be given various courses of action that we might take today.

[TupperHappy]

3. One problem... he didn't say that.

Maria Taedo at The Independent has misquoted Dr. Moore, either by maliciously adding words or just not paying much attention when reading the transcript and letting her biases take over when writing the article. Here is what he actually said:

"When modern life evolved over 500 million years ago, CO2 was more than 10 times higher than today, yet life flourished at this time."

And lest you claim I pulled this from a "denier" website, I have tracked this down to the actual Senate testimony: http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=415b9cde-e664-4628-8fb5-ae3951197d03

Regardless of whatever faults you may have with Dr. Moore, he did not claim that CO2 was 10 times higher during the last Ice Age.

[kristopher]

5. Did he say that humans didn't cause climate change?

Is this accurate?

Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore has angered environmentalist groups after saying climate change is "not caused by humans" and there is "no scientific proof" to back global warming alarmism.

The Canadian ecologist told US lawmakers there is "little correlation" to support a "direct causal relationship" between CO2 emissions and rising global temperatures.

"There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth's atmosphere over the past 100 years," he told a US Senate Committee "If there were such a proof, it would be written down for all to see. No actual proof, as it is understood in science, exists."

There isn't any wriggle room in that.

He shilled for the nuclear industry when it looked like they were going to to be building a lot of reactors using his concerns about CO2 as his first line justification. Now that the funding on that is drying up, it looks like he's been picked by the same franchise (coal/nuclear) playing a different position.

Here he is last June trying to square that round hole:

Dr. Patrick Moore: My opinion that nuclear energy is safe, clean and sustainable was formed in the mid-1990s during the reconsideration of energy policy in light of climate change. It is obvious that nuclear energy, when replacing fossil fuel technology, reduces CO2 emissions by more than 95 percent. Ironically I soon became highly skeptical of the possibility of human-caused catastrophic climate change, yet I still believe strongly that nuclear energy will become more desirable and necessary as time passes...

http://forumonenergy.com/2013/07/22/the-pro-nuclear-environmentalist-movement-a-qa-with-dr-patrick-moore/

Come to think of it, that lines him up perfectly with the largest bloc of support for the nuclear industry.

[kristopher]

4. That happened a long time ago.

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/en/media-center/news-releases/greenpeace-statement-on-patric/

In spite of solid evidence of his lack of ethical foundation as much as 8 years ago he has been a very popular icon for his paid role as a spokesman for the nuclear power industry. He worked through the astroturf group "Clean Safe Energy Coalition" that claims to be 'grassroots', but is, in fact, funded by the Nuclear Energy Institute and a product of their PR campaign.

[LouisvilleDem]

6. Sad

Step by step, he eventually went off the deep end.

[kristopher]

7. Another way to look at is is that he sold out a long time ago.

That's what the evidence says.