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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:56 PM Mar 2014

Do You Live Within 50 Miles of a Nuclear Power Plant?

Do You Live Within 50 Miles of a Nuclear Power Plant?
A new interactive map tells you exactly how far you live from a nuclear reactor


By Joseph Stromberg
SMITHSONIANMAG.COM
MARCH 13, 2014
Quick: where's the nearest nuclear power plant?

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This is probably not a question you're asked all that often. But it's one worth knowing the answer to for a couple of reasons: the basic value in knowing where some of your electricity comes from and, in the extremely unlikely event of a meltdown, the practical knowledge of whether you'll have to evacuate your home.

Currently, if a radiological emergency occurs, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission recommends that anyone living within 10 miles of a plant to tune in to their local radio or television Emergency Alert System and heed the instructions from state or local officials. The commission also suggests that anyone within 50 miles to take action to protect local food and water supplies. Recently, some have have argued that the evacuation zone should be extended this far as well—and in 2011, after the Fukushima disaster in Japan, authorities from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission recommended that Americans living within 50 miles of the plant to evacuate.

This is where a new nuclear proximity interactive map by Esri (one of their many cool disaster response maps) comes in handy. Scroll around to see the 65 active nuclear plants scattered across the U.S. surrounded by 10-mile (red) and 50-mile (yellow) radiuses, or plug in your address to get the exact distance you are from the nearest few plants. (Smithsonian.com's office, in case you're wondering, is 44.18 miles from the Calvert Cliffs plant in southern Maryland.) You can also turn on layers that show the locations of historic earthquakes and fault lines.

Seeing all the plants laid...


http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/do-you-live-within-50-miles-nuclear-power-plant-180950072/?no-ist
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Do You Live Within 50 Miles of a Nuclear Power Plant? (Original Post) kristopher Mar 2014 OP
Nuclear bombs, yes. Nuclear research, oh, yeah. Warpy Mar 2014 #1
Excuse me but the nations largest producing nuclear power plant is in Arizona Jack for Sanders Mar 2014 #7
It's already pretty expensive and closed loop cooling adds more to the cost kristopher Mar 2014 #13
I did. But they shut San Onofre down itsrobert Mar 2014 #2
So did I. Control-Z Mar 2014 #6
Glad to see this in the Smithsonian. Tried hard to get people interested in this reality enough Mar 2014 #3
Oppressive map Demeter Mar 2014 #4
Thank You for posting this…those who are near, please heed... Tikki Mar 2014 #5
Yes Omaha Steve Mar 2014 #8
Part of my duties for a while kristopher Mar 2014 #11
Within 5 miles. obxhead Mar 2014 #9
How about Indian Point? RoccoR5955 Mar 2014 #10
just outside the 50 mile radius notadmblnd Mar 2014 #12
Yup 14.98 miles away.. Historic NY Mar 2014 #14
Better than I expected, but still in 3 yellow zones. hedda_foil Mar 2014 #15
21.06 for me. bunnies Mar 2014 #16
Chouteau ok. madokie Mar 2014 #17

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
1. Nuclear bombs, yes. Nuclear research, oh, yeah.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:58 PM
Mar 2014

but this state doesn't have enough water to run nuclear power plants.

 

Jack for Sanders

(46 posts)
7. Excuse me but the nations largest producing nuclear power plant is in Arizona
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:30 PM
Mar 2014

smack dab in the middle of the Sonoran Desert 45 miles west of the center of Phoenix.







http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palo_Verde_Nuclear_Generating_Station

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
13. It's already pretty expensive and closed loop cooling adds more to the cost
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:34 PM
Mar 2014

If you aren't already familiar with the options, see:
http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_energy/our-energy-choices/energy-and-water-use/water-energy-electricity-cooling-power-plant.html
The excerpt from that site is below, but first this write up from an engineering magazine discusses what's involved in going from once through to a closed loop system. I included it because it give a good where-the-rubber-meets-the-road look at the differences.
http://www.power-eng.com/articles/print/volume-117/issue-10/features/converting-once-through-cooling-to-closed-loop.html

Overview from UCS:

Even though all thermoelectric plants use water to generate steam for electricity generation, not all plant cooling systems use water. There are three main methods of cooling:

Once-through systems take water from nearby sources (e.g., rivers, lakes, aquifers, or the ocean), circulate it through pipes to absorb heat from the steam in systems called condensers, and discharge the now warmer water to the local source. Once-through systems were initially the most popular because of their simplicity, low cost, and the possibility of siting power plants in places with abundant supplies of cooling water. This type of system is currently widespread in the eastern U.S. Very few new power plants use once-through cooling, however, because of the disruptions such systems cause to local ecosystems from the significant water withdrawals involved and because of the increased difficulty in siting power plants near available water sources.

Wet-recirculating or closed-loop systems reuse cooling water in a second cycle rather than immediately discharging it back to the original water source. Most commonly, wet-recirculating systems use cooling towers to expose water to ambient air. Some of the water evaporates; the rest is then sent back to the condenser in the power plant. Because wet-recirculating systems only withdraw water to replace any water that is lost through evaporation in the cooling tower, these systems have much lower water withdrawals than once-through systems, but tend to have appreciably higher water consumption. In the western U.S., wet-recirculating systems are predominant.

Dry-cooling systems use air instead of water to cool the steam exiting a turbine. Dry-cooled systems use no water and can decrease total power plant water consumption by more than 90 percent.[2] The tradeoffs to these water savings are higher costs and lower efficiencies. In power plants, lower efficiencies mean more fuel is needed per unit of electricity, which can in turn lead to higher air pollution and environmental impacts from mining, processing, and transporting the fuel. In 2000, most U.S. dry-cooling installations were in smaller power plants, most commonly in natural gas combined-cycle power plants.[3]


About 43 percent of thermoelectric generators in the United States use once-through cooling, 56 percent recirculating, and 1 percent dry-cooling (2008 data). In 2008, some 30 percent of electricity generation involved once-through cooling, 45 percent recirculating cooling, and 2 percent dry-cooling. (In some cases, those same power plants also produced electricity using non-steam systems, such as combustion turbines.)[4]



itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
2. I did. But they shut San Onofre down
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:59 PM
Mar 2014

A nuke plant directly in the middle between LA and San Diego along the coast. What were they thinking?

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
6. So did I.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:27 PM
Mar 2014

I still wonder how safe San Onofre is. I have no idea whether the inactive materials and waste still there would be stable in an earthquake. Obviously, I know too little about the subject.

enough

(13,256 posts)
3. Glad to see this in the Smithsonian. Tried hard to get people interested in this reality
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:01 PM
Mar 2014

back when our local nuke (Limerick) was getting built, and since then. It just doesn't seem to impinge on people's consciousness.

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
5. Thank You for posting this…those who are near, please heed...
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:08 PM
Mar 2014

This is info that all should know because people vacation, travel for business
and move.


Tikki

Omaha Steve

(99,582 posts)
8. Yes
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:54 PM
Mar 2014

And just a few miles from the nuclear arsenal at the air base.

http://www.offutt.af.mil/



Offutt Air Force Base is the home of the 55th Wing and more than 50 partner units including the U.S. Strategic Command and the Air Force Weather Agency. Located in Bellevue, Neb., Offutt's diverse missions and global responsibilities put it on the cutting edge of the Air Force's transformation. Each branch of the U.S. military is represented among the approximately 10,000 military and federal employees assigned here.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
11. Part of my duties for a while
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:10 PM
Mar 2014

...was planning for the survivability of command structure if those were used.

Pretty simple really - there isn't a plan that makes it possible.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
9. Within 5 miles.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:15 PM
Mar 2014

They have sirens they test monthly. I always wonder when they go off if we would have time to get clear without serious contamination during an actual event.

Hopefully the house sells soon.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
10. How about Indian Point?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:29 PM
Mar 2014

2 reactors within 50 miles of more than 15 million people.
Near NYC, in Westchester County, on the Hudson River.
If it goes, we will have no place to go.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
12. just outside the 50 mile radius
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:25 PM
Mar 2014

51.53 Enrico Fermi
77.98 Davis Besse
131.49 Perry
151.02 Palisades
169.56 Donald Cook

hedda_foil

(16,372 posts)
15. Better than I expected, but still in 3 yellow zones.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 01:33 AM
Mar 2014

28.47 Dresden
37.76 Braidwood
47.43 Lasalle
64.05 Byron
80.35 Donald Cook

Thanks.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
17. Chouteau ok.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 03:30 PM
Mar 2014

134.61 Arkansas One
144.66 Wolf Creek
264.93 Callaway
290.26 Cooper
300.96 Comanche Peak


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