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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 09:22 AM Apr 2014

Totally Parched: 100% of California in Drought

http://www.livescience.com/45131-california-in-drought.html

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The Southern, Eastern and Western Slopes of Mt. Shasta were almost bare in January.
Credit: NASA Earth Observatory images by Robert Simmon, using Landsat 8 data from the USGS Earth Explorer

California is parched, with 100 percent of the Golden State entrenched in drought conditions for the first time in 15 years, according to the U.S. Drought Monitor (USDM).

"With the expansion of D1 [moderate drought] across southeast California and southwest Arizona, this week marks the first time in the 15-year history of the USDM that 100 percent of California was in moderate to exceptional drought," according to a statement by the Monitor, which is a joint effort by the National Drought Mitigation Center, NOAA, the U.S. Department of Agriculture and U.S. drought observers.

Since March 25, the state has been under "abnormally dry" conditions, and just this week the Drought Monitor listed the entire state as experiencing a moderate drought. [Photos: The 10 Driest Places on Earth]

Various parts of the state are feeling the California drought more than others. For instance, the city of Montague may run out of drinking water by the end of the summer, according to the Monitor; the city has asked residents to curtail outside watering at this time.
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Totally Parched: 100% of California in Drought (Original Post) xchrom Apr 2014 OP
I hope Californian DUers are okay. merrily Apr 2014 #1
Ok for now PasadenaTrudy Apr 2014 #7
By any chance, does California (or cities within) offer homeowners any tax break for that? merrily Apr 2014 #9
Wish that was the same here in Victoria. OnlinePoker Apr 2014 #12
Glad to hear Victoria is so green. merrily Apr 2014 #13
Holy shit - that's Shasta in JANUARY? hatrack Apr 2014 #2
There are going be water wars again. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2014 #5
Food prices are going to get crazy NickB79 Apr 2014 #3
Right!? & for EVERYONE, so much is grown there stuntcat Apr 2014 #4
I remember two buck chuck. Either way, what a deal! merrily Apr 2014 #10
Do you think Jack Nicholson could get his nose slit again over this? Kablooie Apr 2014 #6
Funny! PasadenaTrudy Apr 2014 #8
I found the address. I'll have to check it out. Kablooie Apr 2014 #14
My first post was going to include a Chinatown reference, but I deleted it. merrily Apr 2014 #11
Dear California- There's water off your left coast nationalize the fed Apr 2014 #15

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. I hope Californian DUers are okay.
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 09:42 AM
Apr 2014

Really, I hope all Californians are okay.

I have so many friends and family there. Guess I should check in with them today.

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
7. Ok for now
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 10:34 AM
Apr 2014

I stopped watering my small patch of grass. Looking forward to putting in drought tolerant plants!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
9. By any chance, does California (or cities within) offer homeowners any tax break for that?
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:09 PM
Apr 2014

During a visit to San Antonio, TX, I commented that a front lawn looked as though it could use some help. It was all brown dirt, cacti, etc. The person I was visiting, said, "Oh, no, that's to save water and they can apply for a break on real estate taxes for doing that.

I guess San Antonio had not privatized the water supply, so saving water was saving San Antonio money; and San Antonio was willin to to reward that with a tax break.

Real estate taxes in TX were very high then because red TX has no sales tax--very hard on retirees and others trying to hang onto their homes. You can cut down on purchases and therefore cut down on your sales tax obligations, but there are not a lot of ways to cut down on real estate taxes, so a real estate tax break was really a very green and welcome thing.

That was in the 90s. Don't know what the story is now.

Oh, duh. As I finished this, I remembered California homeowners get Prop 13. I feel like Emily Litella.



OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
12. Wish that was the same here in Victoria.
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 05:24 PM
Apr 2014

Everybody got on the bandwagon for water conservation and because of this they've had to raise the cost per litre of water to cover the operating cost of the system. The same appears to be happening for tipping fees at the dump...because of recycling not as many dump trucks are going there but they still operate with the same staff levels and have to raise the cost to compensate.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
5. There are going be water wars again.
Sun Apr 27, 2014, 03:58 PM
Apr 2014

Big money is already buying as much water area as they can.
And fracking is using up incredible amounts.

I grew up in Puget Sound.( Seattle area)
The Cascade Mountains run north to South along the state,
We were always aware of "snowpack"., meaning how much snow there was up there each season.
snowpack was part of the weather report, for skiers, way back when, but we also knew it meant our drinking water for the year, and the water for crops.
When climate change became an issue, most people did not think in terms of snowpack, and what it meant.
All over the West, snow pack has diminshed to a startling degree, as it has in africa, and Japan, and other countires.
Kilimjiro and Mt. Fuji are just 2 examples.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
3. Food prices are going to get crazy
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 01:58 PM
Apr 2014

Thank God I've gotten a good start to my garden already. I'd advice others to do the same if they can.

No way I'm paying $2 for one measly pepper at the story this year.

stuntcat

(12,022 posts)
4. Right!? & for EVERYONE, so much is grown there
Sat Apr 26, 2014, 05:54 PM
Apr 2014

It's the vineyards I'm worried about, will there still be 3-buck Chuck?

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
8. Funny!
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 10:42 AM
Apr 2014

I drive past the house in Pasadena where Chinatown was filmed all the time. I find it ironic that the huge lawn is as green as can be and we are in a drought..

merrily

(45,251 posts)
11. My first post was going to include a Chinatown reference, but I deleted it.
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:12 PM
Apr 2014

I thought someone might get angry.

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
15. Dear California- There's water off your left coast
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 11:06 PM
Apr 2014

Get busy!



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