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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 06:06 AM Aug 2014

39 kilotons a year: Mysterious source of ozone-depleting chemical banned since 2009 baffles NASA

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/21/39-kilotons-a-year-mysterious-source-of-ozone-depleting-chemical-banned-since-2009-baffles-nasa/



39 kilotons a year: Mysterious source of ozone-depleting chemical banned since 2009 baffles NASA
By Agence France-Presse
Thursday, August 21, 2014 5:55 EDT

A chemical used in dry cleaning and fire extinguishers may have been phased out in recent years but NASA said Wednesday that carbon tetrachloride (CCl4) is still being spewed into the atmosphere from an unknown source.

The world agreed to stop using CC14 as part of the Vienna Convention on Protection of the Ozone Layer and its Montreal Protocol, which attained universal ratification in 2009.

“Parties to the Montreal Protocol reported zero new CCl4 emissions between 2007-2012,” the US space agency said in a statement.

“However, the new research shows worldwide emissions of CCl4 average 39 kilotons per year, approximately 30 percent of peak emissions prior to the international treaty going into effect.”
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39 kilotons a year: Mysterious source of ozone-depleting chemical banned since 2009 baffles NASA (Original Post) unhappycamper Aug 2014 OP
CC14 imthevicar Aug 2014 #1
For some reason the word 'fracking' jumps forward in my mind. unhappycamper Aug 2014 #2
OOOOOOO! imthevicar Aug 2014 #3
Bingo! Nt newfie11 Aug 2014 #4
Kick n/t glinda Aug 2014 #15
THIS IS HOW THE WORLD ENDS, THIS IS HOW THE WORLD ENDS drynberg Aug 2014 #5
that's not quite correct leftyohiolib Aug 2014 #7
Some soul sucking corporations owned or run by a bunch of psychopaths are making money off of this fasttense Aug 2014 #6
China? L0oniX Aug 2014 #12
Halliburton and/or Dow Nihil Aug 2014 #17
It's the aliens I tell you. yourout Aug 2014 #8
Cue History Channel Guy . . . hatrack Aug 2014 #11
I wonder how much old production was stored caraher Aug 2014 #9
A corporation or large country has to be manufacturing it at those amounts fasttense Aug 2014 #18
Somewhere in China Scott6113 Aug 2014 #10
I think I found it... whereisjustice Aug 2014 #13
Minimum Order 25 Tons - sounds like they're in it for the long haul . . . hatrack Aug 2014 #14
my guess: China Bill USA Aug 2014 #16
 

imthevicar

(811 posts)
1. CC14
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 07:40 AM
Aug 2014

Has A distinctive odor. Used By Machinist, and mechanics for years as a cleaning fluid. I can never forget that smell. When I do smell it, and I have, The owners of such cleaning fluid always deny it stating, "you can't buy Carbon tet here." I would look at 3rd world countries for the source of use. I would look at first world countries for it's manufacture.

unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
2. For some reason the word 'fracking' jumps forward in my mind.
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 07:48 AM
Aug 2014

Yea, carbon tet has a smell you can't forget.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
7. that's not quite correct
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 08:37 AM
Aug 2014

THIS IS HOW THE WORLD ENDS, THIS IS HOW THE WORLD ENDS

Not with a Bang but by republicans

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
6. Some soul sucking corporations owned or run by a bunch of psychopaths are making money off of this
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 08:31 AM
Aug 2014

Someone is making big bucks off of spewing these illegal chemicals and it ain't some little guy who doesn't see the harm. In these quantities, it's got to be a huge corporation. They probably have a history of it too.

Now what corporations are known to use banned chemicals to make huge profits at the expenses of everyone else on earth?

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
17. Halliburton and/or Dow
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 04:45 AM
Aug 2014

> Now what corporations are known to use banned chemicals to make huge profits
> at the expenses of everyone else on earth?

The list of proven criminals is far too long but those two are at the top of it.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
9. I wonder how much old production was stored
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 08:58 AM
Aug 2014

I wouldn't expect it to be large compared to previous annual production figures. But if it were a substantial fraction of a year's typical pre-ban use, maybe some of this is just people using old stock.

Or more likely, it's still being made and used someplace where regulation is lax...

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
18. A corporation or large country has to be manufacturing it at those amounts
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 09:08 AM
Aug 2014

more than 85 million pounds a year, not a one time dump, but each year, does NOT suggest some small rouge nation or handful of uncaring businesses or people.

And you can bet they are making big bucks off it AND use of it is going to increase.

Scott6113

(56 posts)
10. Somewhere in China
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 08:58 AM
Aug 2014

The wild west of deregulation. Small machine shops making socket wrench sets or diesel generators or whatever. Other developing manufacturing countries like Romania or Uruguay. Hard to police the world, but the atmosphere is one thing.

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