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unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:28 AM Oct 2014

Wind power under scrutiny

http://www.fayobserver.com/news/business/wind-power-under-scrutiny/article_3ace05e1-5857-5c6c-aa87-2080dd18ceec.html



Wind turbines loom in the background as donkeys run through a pasture at the home of Tammy and Rick Huffstutlar in Calumet, Okla.

Wind power under scrutiny
Posted: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 4:23 pm
Associated Press

CALUMET, Okla. - A decade ago, states offered wind-energy developers an open-armed embrace, envisioning a bright future for an industry that would offer cheap electricity, new jobs and steady income for large landowners, especially in rural areas with few other economic prospects.

~snip~

But now that wind turbines stand tall across many parts of the nation's windy heartland, some leaders in Oklahoma and other states fear their efforts succeeded too well, attracting an industry that gobbles up big subsidies, draws frequent complaints and uses its powerful lobby to resist any reforms.

The tension could have broad implications for the expansion of wind power in other parts of the country.

"What we've got in this state is a time bomb just waiting to go off," said Frank Robson, a real estate developer from Claremore in northeast Oklahoma. "And the fuse is burning, and nobody is paying any attention to it."
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djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. But this is different than nuclear or coal or oil how? And with less pollution.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:41 AM
Oct 2014
"attracting an industry that gobbles up big subsidies, draws frequent complaints and uses its powerful lobby to resist any reforms. "


This is what nuclear and coal and oil do right this minute, with exponentially more pollution. The irony.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
13. That's the exact phrase that caught my eye too!
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 06:17 AM
Oct 2014

> attracting an industry that gobbles up big subsidies, draws frequent complaints
> and uses its powerful lobby to resist any reforms.

We can also add that the fossil fuel industry happily astroturfs all manner of propaganda
articles - like this one - under the fake heading of "news".

Need to order a new irony meter ...

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
2. The oil and coal industries are sweating wind and solar.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:17 AM
Oct 2014

I think we'll be seeing more of these types of articles. I find it ironic that they are complaining about subsidies to wind. Short memories?

mopinko

(70,012 posts)
3. irony win of the day.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:25 AM
Oct 2014

are they casting shadows on people's houses or something?
yes, people actually complained about that here.

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
4. "... he found about 40 of his cows lined up in a single row in the turbine's shadow ..."
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:08 AM
Oct 2014
On a recent 101-degree day, he found about 40 of his cows lined up in a single row in the turbine's shadow.


So I guess not everyone's complaining.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
10. I already had checked it out before I did my post.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:23 PM
Oct 2014

It seems like standard power company propaganda to me.

What do you think?

madokie

(51,076 posts)
11. No doubt
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 03:26 PM
Oct 2014

Frank Robson is to be trusted as if he was a Walton. In other words not to be. Just the fact he is trying to sell himself as a rancher instead of who and what connections he has to the Waltons is suspect enough for me to not trust him. I do not trust the Walton family since old Sam died.
Go in one of their stores and check out how they treat their workforce and you can see that they are not good solid citizens

madokie

(51,076 posts)
8. If I remember correctly
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:56 PM
Oct 2014

Frank Robson is who owns many of the walmart store buildings in this area, if not all of them around here. Brother in law of the Waltons

If my memory is correct then I question his stance on this issue. Whats under the surface that he would be benefiting from this


Here's a little info on the Robsons and Waltons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybil_Robson_Orr

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