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OKIsItJustMe

(19,937 posts)
Sun May 10, 2015, 09:11 PM May 2015

Caltech student fathers breakthrough in green chemistry (a new, potassium-based, catalyst)

(Please note: NASA material. Copyright concerns are nil.)

http://climate.nasa.gov/news/2273/

[font face=Serif]News | April 21, 2015

[font size=5]Caltech student fathers breakthrough in green chemistry[/font]

By Bob Silberg,
NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory

[font size=3]Of what use is a newborn baby? This rhetorical question, variously attributed to Benjamin Franklin, Michael Faraday and Thomas Edison, is meant to suggest that a novel discovery or invention whose ultimate utility is not yet known should be viewed as a bouncing bundle of potential.

Along these lines, the eight-minute video Element 19 can be considered a sort of birth announcement. It heralds what Caltech’s Resnick Sustainability Institute, which produced the video and funded the work it describes, calls a breakthrough in sustainable chemistry.

The baby in this metaphor is a catalyst that, unlike its cousins that pervade modern industry, is based not on precious metals like gold and platinum, but rather on something you can get out of a banana: potassium. The father (or perhaps more accurately if we ignore the gender problem, the mother) is a Caltech grad student named Anton Toutov, who reports that the delivery was long and difficult.

This new technology is already capable of manufacturing chemicals used in pharmaceuticals, agriculture and cosmetics in a much more environmentally friendly way than traditional methods. The catalyst requires little or no processing with petrochemicals and operates at much lower temperatures than standard catalytic methods, both of which keep its carbon footprint tiny. It can reduce air pollution from certain kinds of transportation fuels and, unlike the precious-metal processes it replaces, it produces no toxic waste. But like a baby, its ultimate accomplishments may be yet to come.



[font size=4]Unleashing minds[/font]

So what, exactly, is happening in this reaction? No one knows.

“It's really powerful and we have no idea how it works,” Toutov said. “It's a new way of moving atoms around. We don't know why they're moving around the way that they are, but they seem to be induced in some way by this potassium catalyst.”

“It is clear that the mechanism of how this is all happening is really very different than the way we've been classically thinking about these sorts of problems,” said Caltech professor Brian Stoltz who, along with Grubbs, has been serving as an advisor to Toutov and his team. “And I think that is the most eye-opening aspect of it. It's going to unleash people's minds and have them think about solving hard problems in very, very different ways. I think that's going to lead to a lot of new outcomes.”

In the video, Toutov puts it this way: “We thought that only precious metals are able to do these very challenging chemical reactions. Turns out that’s not true. Turns out nature figured this out millions of years ago, and we’re only now starting to catch up.”

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Caltech student fathers breakthrough in green chemistry (a new, potassium-based, catalyst) (Original Post) OKIsItJustMe May 2015 OP
I sincerely hope this pans out Warpy May 2015 #1
I could be mistaken but I don't think this is relevant to that particular application. drm604 May 2015 #2
The film was clear as mud on that account Warpy May 2015 #3
I didn't look at the film. drm604 May 2015 #4
You may want to check out the Nature piece as well OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #5
It's behind a paywall. drm604 May 2015 #6
Yes it does OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #7
Which is pure speculation. drm604 May 2015 #8
I’m sorry. I didn’t realize we were arguing. OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #9

Warpy

(111,143 posts)
1. I sincerely hope this pans out
Sun May 10, 2015, 09:24 PM
May 2015

because it would be nice not to have to worry about sleazy bastards crawling under the car at 3 AM to remove the catalytic converter for its precious metal content.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
2. I could be mistaken but I don't think this is relevant to that particular application.
Sun May 10, 2015, 09:47 PM
May 2015

This is about producing medically and commercially useful silicon containing molecules in a cheaper and much greener fashion. I don't think it has anything to do with the type of reactions used in treating car exhaust.

Warpy

(111,143 posts)
3. The film was clear as mud on that account
Sun May 10, 2015, 10:29 PM
May 2015

suggesting instead that potassium salts had a much wider application.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
4. I didn't look at the film.
Sun May 10, 2015, 11:15 PM
May 2015

I read this Caltech article which makes it sound like this involves silicon bonds.
http://www.caltech.edu/news/potassium-salt-outperforms-precious-metals-catalyst-45464
Maybe I'll find some time tomorrow to look at the film.

OKIsItJustMe

(19,937 posts)
7. Yes it does
Mon May 11, 2015, 11:54 AM
May 2015

Those are the current applications.

Going back to the NASA article (which is freely accessible)

http://climate.nasa.gov/news/2273/



So bid welcome to the latest newborn baby to emerge from the Caltech nursery. Or maybe, for you X-Men fans, a newborn mutant since it sort of looks like others of its kind but is in reality a radical departure from anything that went before.

It may turn out to have abilities that are interesting and useful, but limited. Or it may grow up to change the world.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
8. Which is pure speculation.
Tue May 12, 2015, 12:02 AM
May 2015

I don't see the point of this whole argument. This may lead to other breakthroughs leading to other things in the future? Of course. News ideas and new discoveries are always a possibility. I never said otherwise.

I'm not even sure what we're arguing about. I'm done with this.

OKIsItJustMe

(19,937 posts)
9. I’m sorry. I didn’t realize we were arguing.
Tue May 12, 2015, 04:26 PM
May 2015

This is a new type of catalyst—so new, they don’t even know how it works!

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