Al Gore encourages people to speak out about geoengineering.

[Lodestar]

We cannot be silent about this. We are literally being kept in the dark.
Why no questions or outrage? Are we more afraid of being labelled
as 'conspiracy nuts' than we are about the health of our planet?

One Woman in California Has Taken The Bull By The Horns

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[SoLeftIAmRight]

1. Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now

and we plod along

Sanders understands that we must change - and far too many want the war woman

[JDPriestly]

2. You are so right.

[SammyWinstonJack]

14. For some reason, many think that a Democratic Socialist is far more dangerous than a Warmonger.

Go figure....

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. Mass extinction is a real issue but the phantom "chemtrails" have nothing to do with it.

Mass exctinction is on the verge of happening because of loss of habitat and because of specifically verifiable pollution from sources like mercury discharge, pesticide usage, and toxic waste sites.

Time spent chasing conspiracy nonsense is time NOT spent on REAL causes. People like the Koch brothers love it when otherwise intelligent people spend their time on phantom theories and not on the more obvious real causes.

[Lodestar]

3. How will all these chems in the air affect rainwater collection?

It seems to me, after listening to the second video where many of these chemicals
are discussed, that not only do we have to worry about contamination of underground
water supplies, but now we can't even rely on the purity of the rain!

[pnwmom]

4. The title of this video is UTTER NONSENSE. Al Gore is laughing at the idea

that some people have PROPOSED -- putting sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere. He's NOT "confirming" that this measure is being taken. He's laughing at the absurdity since we obviously need sunlight.

And to believe all this you'd have to believe that Obama and his EPA are in the conspiracy, too, as well as governments around the world.

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/235632-epa-confronts-chemtrails-conspiracy-theory

The Environmental Protection Agency is reminding the public that the "chemtrails" conspiracy theory on aircraft emissions just isn't true.

Conspiracy theorists say that government officials or others are using jets to spray harmful chemicals into the atmosphere. They cite the contrails left by jets as evidence of the chemicals.

The EPA has added a new notice to its website, which links to a fact sheet explaining that the trails left by jets in the atmosphere are only ice particles and contain no harmful chemicals.

“Contrails are line-shaped clouds or ‘Condensation trails’ composed of ice particles that are visible behind jet aircraft engines under certain atmospheric conditions and at times can persist,” says the notice, posted to the EPA’s website Friday.

“EPA is not aware of any deliberate actions to release chemical or biological agents into the atmosphere.”

[Lodestar]

5. uh huh....

and we all know the government and military wouldn't keep their secrets and/or lie about various 'experiments' whether it's on people or the environment. And all the eco-engineering companies and weather making companies are completely benign. But even if top secret, surely they would have strict regulations....well I guess we'll never know because nobody is talking to the people about any of it.

I'm not responsible for how the video was titled.

[pnwmom]

6. Here is the transcript of what Al Gore actually said.

It's at a debunking site -- apparently lots of people are falling for this falsely titled youtube video.

He did NOT confirm it's happening. He confirmed that it's been proposed and he's laughing at the absurdity of it.

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-al-gore-admits-to-chemtrails.t3986/

Ellen: “There’s a rumor, I don’t know if this is true or not, that some scientists are trying to figure out a way to block the sun to try to slow down global warming.”

Al Gore: “It’s a measure of the feeling of desperation that some of them feel…”

Ellen: “Are they really thinking they can do that?”

Gore: “Well, some of them are seriously proposing, and I think it’s completely nuts [laughter], you know, you put another kind of pollution, sulfur dioxide, up to orbit…cover the atmosphere, the sky won’t be really blue in the way it is now anymore, but it would block out some of the sun’s heat so that we wouldn’t have to take the difficult steps to stop spewing all this global warming pollution into the atmosphere.”

Ellen: “Mm hmm.”

Gore: “And of course, there are a lot of problems with what they’re proposing. It turns out plants need sunlight,”

Ellen: “Yes”

Gore: “It wouldn’t stop the acidification of the oceans and it really should be yet another wake-up call for why we need to stop putting all this pollution out there. We put 90 million tons every day up there, and that’s what’s drying out the soil…that’s what’s contributing to the worsening of these fires in the West, West Nile Virus worst outbreak ever last year, Superstorm Sandy.”

[Lodestar]

7. I'm guessing that Gore or anyone who has been given inside information

is not permitted to say more. Do you think that's a possibility or do you think
politicians with inside information are permitted to speak publicly and honestly
about classified info? I think his use of the word "proposed" was a safety net
for him.

[pnwmom]

8. I do not believe it. I don't believe that Obama, Gore, and the EPA are all involved

in what would have be a world-wide coverup.

And Gore correctly explains why the proposed "solution" would never work. He's not the only one smart enough to figure that out.

[Lodestar]

9. I'm guessing these experiments were well underway before any of them

came along. Could they stop it? I don't know. Can they talk about it?
Probably not if it's classified. I'm sure the consequences for doing so
are steep. It will probably take another Snowden... or enough people
simply watching the skies and noticing the effects as the woman does
in the second video. Either way it will take courage.

[pnwmom]

10. Why did you post a misleading post about what Gore actually said?

He didn't tell people to take action against geoengineering or chem trails. He's trying to get people to take action against the REAL pollutants that we KNOW we're pouring into our atmosphere, that are causing global warming.

Why would you want to distract from his real message?

[Lodestar]

11. I don't think it was misleading, but it's clear we have interpreted it

in very different ways. BTW have you looked up lately?

[pnwmom]

13. Yup. Seattle was mostly cloudy 30 years ago and it's mostly cloudy today.

But thanks to the air pollution controls on cars, and the inspections that are required, there is less particulate pollution in the air than we used to have.


But where in that video -- you can see the transcript -- did Gore CONFIRM the claims about the government being involved in chemtrails and geoengineering? Where did he do anything but laugh at the idea?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. Here we go again: "There is no evidence so that proves there is a conspiracy!!1!"

Gore never said "chemtrails" and he never said 'chemtrails are being tested'. This proves that he knows! and that he is being silence! and that chemtrails are real!! It's yuuge!

Not.

[Ghost Dog]

12. Have they also convinced you that it's the Jesuit

Military Order that really rules the world, Lodestar, (and that anyway climate change is not real)?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. This OP really stupid & LIES. 1) Gore not talking about chemtrails 2014. 2) Peterson denies chemtrai

1) Al Gore does not even mention chemtrails.

The title over the video ("Al Gore Publicly Confirms to Chemtrails&quot is not even meaningful English.

Al Gore does not say that the so-called geoengineering is "chemtrails". He does not link them, even conceptually.

Gore is clear that what he is talking about is only future proposals.

2) The Rosalind Peterson video is 2010 and has nothing to do with Gore.

3) Peterson in 2012 says there is no evidence for Chemtrails after 10 years of research.

Rosalind Peterson, founder of California Skywatch, says there's no evidence that those trails in the sky are anything other than normal contrails, aircraft emissions. Transcript of that portion:

"We have to stick with what we can prove. We have to stay away from opinions and beliefs. And if we go to sue someone, we have to have enough rock solid evidence that is so tight to make a case so that we don't lose the case, and that we have many many people, in other words experts in various fields, to testify on our behalf. This mean university professors, this means people that can come and back up our statements, back up the studies, where we can prove that the jets for example reduce the amount of direct sunlight reaching the earth, they change the climate.

And so what happens is, that when I see though, that we are talking about suing, ... who? In other words, I find that the direct proof to link up who's doing what ..., and also I can tell you that in ten years of research, other than aluminum coated fiberglass, chaff releases by the US Military, [font color = "red"]I have no proof whatsoever that the jets are releasing anything but jet fuel emissions.[/font]

Now I can prove that the rocket programs in the United States are releasing trimethylaluminum, aluminum oxide, barium. I can prove the rocket programs in the United States are just coating us with toxic chemicals all the time. And these programs are listed at NASA, NOAA, the US Air Force, the US Navy, I mean there's tests going on all the time. The US Navy CARE program is a prime example. So I can prove, I have so many documents I couldn't even put them all on the internet, even if I tried, because there's Pentagon reports, there's all kind of reports dating back twenty, thirty years.

When it comes to proving what the jets are releasing, I don't have the documentation, and I don't have a single study, I don't have a single solitary verifiable evidence that the jets are releasing anything except military releases of aluminum coated fiberglass by military aircraft.

So there's a differentiation for me in putting my name or associating myself with something where I can't back it up. Now if anyone has direct proof, they've got university studies, if you've got documents, government documents, if you've got reports, then that makes a big difference. But right now, after ten years of research, I can't do it."

[Lodestar]

17. ....

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLwfFtDFZDpwuQIlidS0dc30xM4y_91nTR&v=-FlqChTYow0

[Bernardo de La Paz]

18. Spin your wheels! Make the Kochs happy! Chase celebrity conspiracy theories

Do not look at the obvious pollution spewed by factories, cars, trucks, tech waste disposal, and the consumerist culture!

Disregard the easily measurable pollution like the water from household faucets that can be ignited, or Flint Michigan!

It's so much more satisfying to watch celebrities like The Artist Prince and Kylie Jenner speculate about things that they know nothing about.

It's so satisfying to feel that you got in on the ground floor of a conspiracy theory. You are one of the chosen few who really know. Because it feels good to be right when everyone else is wrong.

But, in fact, even though an Einstein can be right before the rest of the scientific community comes around to understanding him, almost all wild weird theories are just that: wild, weird, and never accepted for good reasons.

There is a huge overlap between the chemtrail faithful and the wacky right wing. Not 100% obviously but lots of overlap.
There is a huge overlap between the chemtrail believers and the birthers.
... and the UN Agenda 21 freaks.
... and Trump supporters.
... and the black helicopter worrywarts.
... and the climate change deniers.

There's a reason. Kochs and their ilk want to amp up rage against government and government regulation and government spending. Anything they can do to divert attention away from their oil and gas and chemical polluting industries.