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There's no such thing as humane meat or eggs. (Original Post) lordsummerisle Nov 2018 OP
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #1
Mocking people in this forum is an ugly thing to do. byronius Nov 2018 #2
Well, isn't that special? Bless your heart, sharing that with the vegan forum. Merlot Nov 2018 #4
To whoever alerted on this post Cal Carpenter Nov 2018 #5
A sentient being was slaughtered after a life of misery for your culinary pleasure. How droll! usrbs Nov 2018 #7
+100 Duppers Nov 2018 #10
I guess the plains Indians were cruel and inhumane to the buffaloes demosincebirth Nov 2018 #14
Are you a plains Indian? athena Mar 2019 #21
That is cold. You think humans are the only feeling beings? nt Susan Calvin Nov 2018 #11
Had the most wonderful meals today and nobody died for them ☺️ MLAA Nov 2018 #3
Methinks my chickens are in no way abused for UpInArms Nov 2018 #6
Same here Bayard Nov 2018 #8
In rooster years? Duppers Nov 2018 #9
I am seriously considering backyard chickens. Susan Calvin Nov 2018 #12
Just make certain that you have UpInArms Nov 2018 #13
This is not the place to seek advice on that. athena Nov 2018 #16
Am not even familiar with your terminology UpInArms Nov 2018 #17
What do you think happened to your chickens' brothers? athena Mar 2019 #19
I buy roosters and hens UpInArms Mar 2019 #20
Very sorry. nt Susan Calvin Nov 2018 #18
This is the vegan/vegetarian forum. athena Nov 2018 #15

Response to lordsummerisle (Original post)

byronius

(7,392 posts)
2. Mocking people in this forum is an ugly thing to do.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 06:46 PM
Nov 2018

You think you're being funny, but it's just really mean. You should rethink your response.

Ugly.

To vegetarians and vegans, your comment sounds exactly like people who used to mock the suffering of slaves. To us, meat is slavery. You're mocking the suffering of the enslaved.

It makes you look really, really insensitive. Best to stick to other forums.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
5. To whoever alerted on this post
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:25 PM
Nov 2018

As far as I can tell, the alert system doesn't tell the jury what forum a post is in. I may have reconsidered my vote to leave it had I known, because I do respect the idea that these groups are protected. The old jury system did a better job in this respect. I think the alert reason should have been the Statement of Purpose choice, and then perhaps it would be handled differently...? I know that group hosts used to have the ability to deal with this kind of stuff.

Anyway, don't want to derail the thread or anything, just wanted to mention this...

eta: I guess Statement of Purpose violation is only an option on an OP. I don't know what the admins expect us to do in a case like this

usrbs

(632 posts)
7. A sentient being was slaughtered after a life of misery for your culinary pleasure. How droll!
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:39 PM
Nov 2018

If you’re a pet owner, imagine your pet in the conditions described in the article. If not, you still should be able to imagine the suffering these creatures experience. They’re not as intelligent as us but their capacity for suffering is comparable.

I hope that one day you’ll get enough compassion to look back at your attitude with shame and disbelief.

demosincebirth

(12,536 posts)
14. I guess the plains Indians were cruel and inhumane to the buffaloes
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 03:54 AM
Nov 2018

As they hearded them over cliffs to their deaths? All they wanted was food to feed their families and clothe them.

athena

(4,187 posts)
21. Are you a plains Indian?
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 12:47 AM
Mar 2019

If not, you do not have an argument. It's perfectly possible, in fact much cheaper, these days to feed and clothe oneself and one's family without supporting the torture and slaughter of innocent animals.

Furthermore, what's being done to cows, pigs, and chickens these days is much, much worse than anything a plains Indian could have imagined. They would probably have found it cowardly and inhuman. And you're actively supporting it with your dollars, while using the Indians (Indians!) as your justification.

I find it so amusing when a meat-eater pulls the "But I have to feed my family!" argument. When one's goal is to fool oneself, one doesn't realize how weak and unconvincing one's arguments are.

MLAA

(17,274 posts)
3. Had the most wonderful meals today and nobody died for them ☺️
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 06:53 PM
Nov 2018

Beyond Burger for lunch and veggie empanada and veggie tamale for dinner. Looking forward to my truly cruelty free chocolate vegan cake for dessert!

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
6. Methinks my chickens are in no way abused for
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:32 PM
Nov 2018

Their eggs ...

This is where old chickens get to live their glory days in style

And if I get eggs, i’m happy

Bayard

(22,048 posts)
8. Same here
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:47 PM
Nov 2018

I have the young egg-layers, and the old retired girls. Along with a little bantam rooster that has to be about 50 years old now.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
13. Just make certain that you have
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 12:16 AM
Nov 2018

a critter (Fox/raccoon) proof coop. And, a way for them to have water (electric buckets) in the winter

A good rooster (ours is a jap tail Bantu) is a plus ... he watches out for everything ...

Enjoy them ... chickens can be a fun addition to your world

athena

(4,187 posts)
16. This is not the place to seek advice on that.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 12:23 PM
Nov 2018

Do it through PMs or on another DU forum. This is the vegan/vegetarian forum. We don’t support the grinding of live male chicks here, which is what you support when you buy eggs or a backyard chicken.

athena

(4,187 posts)
19. What do you think happened to your chickens' brothers?
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 04:25 PM
Mar 2019

You didn’t buy as many roosters as hens, did you? What do you think happens to the male chicks? Do you think that your farmer’s market ensures that they’re well-fed and live out their lives in peace?

The word “grind” is not “terminology”. If you speak English, you know what it means. You know that every time you buy a female chick, you’re supporting the killing of a male chick. You can claim not to know, but you do know.

Ultimately, there is karma. You can support the torture and killing of innocent animals as much as you like. But the cholesterol you put in your mouth in the form of their flesh and bodily secretions will give you heart disease and Alzheimer’s as you age. You will suffer because you caused innocent beings to suffer. Cruelty only leads to more cruelty.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
20. I buy roosters and hens
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:53 PM
Mar 2019

And so does everyone at the market ... maybe where you are it is different

athena

(4,187 posts)
15. This is the vegan/vegetarian forum.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 12:19 PM
Nov 2018

You have the rest of DU to talk about how you disagree with vegan and vegetarian ideals. Doing so here is crass. It is not the behavior of a liberal.

You’re free to eat as much meat, eggs and dairy as you like. It’s between you, your health, and your conscience. As a vegan, I don’t care if you grow chickens or slaughter pigs or hand over all your hard-earned money to the factory-farm industry. It’s your life, and you can live it as you wish. But gloating about it in this forum is ugly.

I suspect you never gave a moment’s thought to what happened to the brothers of your chickens. You might want to Google it sometime.

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