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Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 06:22 AM Sep 2015

Democracy Has Departed The West

Before the West spreads democracy abroad maybe it could get some for itself. The US is an oligarchy in which government is answerable to six powerful private interest groups. In Europe governments are answerable to the EU, Washington, and private bankers and not to their peoples. In the UK the military brass has declared its hold on the reins of power.

Jeremy Corbyn is the first Labourite to lead the Labour Party in a long time. Considering the stupidity and immorality of the Tories, Corbyn could become prime minister of Britain. Should this occur, Corbyn would shift the budget priorities away from supporting Washington’s wars toward refurbishing the social welfare state that made life for ordinary Britishers more secure and less stressful.

A senior serving general of the British army said that the army would not allow the people to “put a maverick in charge of the country’s security. The Army just wouldn’t stand for it and would use whatever means possible, fair or foul, to prevent that.”

In other words, a democratic outcome unacceptable to the English military will be overthrown. Just like in Egypt.

Here we have the incongruity of Washington and London bringing democracy to others through what Vladimir Putin calls “airstrike democracy,” while tolerating a democracy deficit themselves. The safest conclusion is that democracy is a cloak for an aggressive agenda, not a value in itself to the US and UK elites, who rule and who intend to continue to rule these countries for their personal benefit...

/...http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-23/paul-craig-roberts-democracy-has-departed-west

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Democracy Has Departed The West (Original Post) Ghost Dog Sep 2015 OP
K&R nt avebury Sep 2015 #1
Back in the 'good' old days everyone sacrificed when this country was at war. unhappycamper Sep 2015 #2
The last "good war" ended 70 years ago. The rest has been mostly corruption and lies to enrich leveymg Sep 2015 #3

unhappycamper

(60,364 posts)
2. Back in the 'good' old days everyone sacrificed when this country was at war.
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 07:35 AM
Sep 2015

dubya told us to 'Go shopping' and promptly cut taxes by $1,600,000,000,000 (trillion).

And these assholes started two fucking unnecessary wars. And put them on the National Credit Card. Every fucking penny of it.

We are coming up on our 15th anniversary of continuous wars in the Middle East and Africa.

The DoD is pissing and moaning they need new equipment to keep us 'safe'.

We have spent at least $4,000,000,000,000 (trillion) on these adventures and the only good to come out of it is Afghan girls are getting education.

Kadahar was the murder capital of the world in 2014.

Afghan refugees are trying to get into the EU.

Prior to our occupation of Afghanistan. little heroin was exported from there. Afghanistan is now a major supplier to the word opioid market.

https://publicintelligence.net/usnato-troops-patrolling-opium-poppy-fields-in-afghanistan/

US/NATO Troops Patrolling Opium Poppy Fields in Afghanistan
May 21, 2010

These photos have been released by the Department of Defense and ISAF over the last few years. Some of the photos discuss instances of troops helping with the destruction of poppy fields. Many of the photos do not mention anything related to destruction or removal of poppies. Instead, they describe how troops “patrol” through and around the fields. In one instance, a US soldier even seems to be even helping with cultivation. In a recent report from Geraldo Rivera which aired in late April on Fox News, a USMC Lt. Col. indicated that US forces encourage the Aghans to grow different crops, however, out of fear of losing stability poppy cultivation is tolerated and even supported. In November 2009, the Afghan Minister of Counter Narcotics General Khodaidad Khodaidad stated that the majority of drugs are stockpiled in two provinces controlled by troops from the US, the UK, and Canada. He also said that NATO forces are taxing the production of opium in the regions under their control and that foreign troops are earning money from drug production in Afghanistan.



Captain Julian Hohnen, Officer Commanding a combined Australian and Afghan Army patrol base in the Baluchi Valley Region mentors Afghan National Army Officer, Lieutenant Farhad Habib. Mid Caption: All across the MTF1 area of operations partnered mentoring is being conducted on mounted and dismounted combined patrols with ever increasing security presence being experienced by local communities from the Southern Baluchi Valley to the Northern Chora reaches as well as east through the Mirabad. Ongoing combined ANA and MTF1 security operations involving infantry, combat engineer and reconnaissance capabilities in Oruzgan have achieved multiple layers of effects including an increased rate of IED “find and render safe” percentages, increased cache finds, and enhanced trust fostered within local communities. Deep Caption: Operation SLIPPER is Australia's military contribution to the international campaign against terrorism, piracy and improving maritime security. Under this operation our forces contribute to the efforts of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) - led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan. ISAF seeks to bring security, stability and prosperity to Afghanistan and aims to prevent Afghanistan again becoming a safe haven for international terrorists. Operation SLIPPER also supports the United States led International Coalition Against Terrorism (ICAT) in the broader Middle East.




U.S. Marines assigned to the female engagement team (FET) of I Marine Expeditionary Force (Forward) conduct a patrol alongside a poppy field while visiting Afghan settlements in Boldak, Afghanistan, April 5, 2010. The FET, which is deployed in support of the International Security Assistance Force, is in the area to engage with local women in an effort to gain cultural awareness and ascertain family needs.




An Afghan poppy farmer watches an AH-1W Cobra helicopter fly over his field in Farah province, Afghanistan, March 8, 2009. The Cobras are providing overwatch protection for Afghan National Police officers and U.S. Marines with India Company, 3rd Battalion, 8th Marine Regiment as they conduct a cordon and search in a small village. The Cobras are part of the Air Command Element for the Special Purpose Marine Air Ground Task Force-Afghanistan which is rooting out Taliban and insurgent fighters and providing security for the Afghan people.

(Many more pics at link above.)

We have seen heroin flooding our cites before - New York City in the 70s. We found out heroin was coming into the US inside the caskets of dead Americans flowing from Vietnam.

Here's some of what the CIA was doing in the 70s:

(INVESTIGATIVE REPORT: POLITICS AND COVERT OPERATION POLICY IN THE DRUG WAR) http://www.whale.to/b/montalvo.html
http://jamesclear.com/heroin-habits
http://www.drugtext.org/Supply-reduction/the-real-gulf-and-the-phoney-war.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Politics_of_Heroin_in_Southeast_Asia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan
http://www.dw.de/at-least-15-missing-in-southwest-mexicos-guerrero-state/a-18462435
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/20/venezuelas-parliamentary-speaker-denies-cocaine-smuggling-claims
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ike_Atkinson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vang_Pao
http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/document_conversions/48/1_CIA_AND_THE_GENERALS.pdf
http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/document_conversions/48/1_CIA_AND_THE_GENERALS.pdf
http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/document_conversions/48/2_CIA_AND_THE_HOUSE_OF_NGO.pdf
http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/document_conversions/48/3_CIA_AND_RURAL_PACIFICATION.pdf
http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/document_conversions/48/4_GOOD_QUESTIONS_WRONG_ANSWERS.pdf
http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/document_conversions/48/6_UNDERCOVER_ARMIES.pdf
(CIA operative stood out in 'secret war' in Laos) http://www.webcitation.org/5knBztHGu

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
3. The last "good war" ended 70 years ago. The rest has been mostly corruption and lies to enrich
Thu Sep 24, 2015, 08:57 AM
Sep 2015

mob-connected oligarchs.

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