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Eugene

(61,807 posts)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:13 AM Jan 2016

Royal Pains: Two Princes Vie for Power in Saudi Arabia, Make a Mess

Source: NBC News

JAN 23 2016, 5:24 AM ET

Royal Pains: Two Princes Vie for Power in Saudi Arabia, Make a Mess

by ROBERT WINDREM

A rivalry between two princes may explain Saudi Arabia's sudden eagerness to pick fights at home and abroad, as the two men spark one international disaster after another while vying for the kingdom's throne.

"To understand the Saudi royal family, you don't go to the Kennedy School of Government," says Bruce Riedel, the CIA's former national intelligence officer for the Middle East. "You read Shakespeare!"

The struggle between Crown Prince Muhammad bin Nayef and Prince Mohammad bin Salman has all the elements of Elizabethan drama, including strange alliances, ambitious courtiers - and an ailing, ancient king who may be mentally incompetent.

Diplomatic sources and U.S. officials believe 80-year-old King Salman, with whom Secretary of State John Kerry is scheduled to meet in Riyadh this weekend, shows signs of dementia. One official said that during a recent meeting, the king was only able to follow the conversation by pausing while an aide in another room typed a response that the king then read from an iPad. Some in the U.S. government believe that when King Salman declined to come to Camp David last spring to meet with President Obama, he was not just snubbing the president but trying to avoid embarrassment in front of world media.

The princes who would take his place may be first cousins, but they're polar opposites. "MBN," as Crown Prince Muhammad bin Nayef is known, is 55 and a trusted U.S. ally. The interior minister and crown prince rose to power on his slow, steady success as head of the Saudi counterterrorism program, where he became a favorite of the CIA. He was sometimes also known as the Prince of Darkness because of his rank, his job in intelligence, and his night-owl habits.

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Royal Pains: Two Princes Vie for Power in Saudi Arabia, Make a Mess (Original Post) Eugene Jan 2016 OP
Maybe they ought to have the beheadings game. longship Jan 2016 #1
"Game of Thrones" indeed. nt bemildred Jan 2016 #2
Exclusive - Saudi-Iranian proxy war over Syria spreads to Davos bemildred Jan 2016 #3
U.S. Relies Heavily on Saudi Money to Support Syrian Rebels bemildred Jan 2016 #4
sigh. n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2016 #5

longship

(40,416 posts)
1. Maybe they ought to have the beheadings game.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:38 AM
Jan 2016

The one who gets the most, wins!

Like George Carlin might have suggested, "Fuck! This shit has to be on Pay-Per-View!"
<=as if it were needed

And BTW, fuck Saudi Arabia!

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. Exclusive - Saudi-Iranian proxy war over Syria spreads to Davos
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 11:28 AM
Jan 2016

Senior Saudi and Iranian figures clashed behind closed doors at a private meeting convened by the World Economic Forum in Davos this week to try to promote peace in Syria, participants said.

The barbed exchange between Saudi Prince Turki al-Faisal and Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif at an invitation-only meeting on Wednesday underlined the hostility between the two Gulf rivals, who are waging proxy wars in Syria, Yemen and Iraq.

Riyadh broke off diplomatic relations and cut off trade and transport ties with Tehran two weeks ago after protesters stormed the Saudi embassy in Iran. The protests erupted following the Saudi execution of a leading Shi'ite cleric that outraged predominantly Shi'ite Iranians.

The standoff highlights some of the reasons U.S.-Russian-backed peace talks on Syria may not open as planned in Geneva next week. There is no agreement on who should represent opponents of the Syrian government, and Riyadh-backed rebels are demanding that Russia first stop air strikes in Syria.

http://in.reuters.com/article/mideast-crisis-syria-davos-idINKCN0V10CO

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. U.S. Relies Heavily on Saudi Money to Support Syrian Rebels
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 12:55 PM
Jan 2016

WASHINGTON — When President Obama secretly authorized the Central Intelligence Agency to begin arming Syria’s embattled rebels in 2013, the spy agency knew it would have a willing partner to help pay for the covert operation. It was the same partner the C.I.A. has relied on for decades for money and discretion in far-off conflicts: the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Since then, the C.I.A. and its Saudi counterpart have maintained an unusual arrangement for the rebel-training mission, which the Americans have code-named Timber Sycamore. Under the deal, current and former administration officials said, the Saudis contribute both weapons and large sums of money, and the C.I.A takes the lead in training the rebels on AK-47 assault rifles and tank-destroying missiles.

The support for the Syrian rebels is only the latest chapter in the decadeslong relationship between the spy services of Saudi Arabia and the United States, an alliance that has endured through the Iran-contra scandal, support for the mujahedeen against the Soviets in Afghanistan and proxy fights in Africa. Sometimes, as in Syria, the two countries have worked in concert. In others, Saudi Arabia has simply written checks underwriting American covert activities.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/24/world/middleeast/us-relies-heavily-on-saudi-money-to-support-syrian-rebels.html?_r=0

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