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Eugene

(61,843 posts)
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 02:30 PM Dec 2016

Trump kids' diplomatic forays rattle State Dept.

Source: Politico

Trump kids' diplomatic forays rattle State Dept.

'It makes us look like we’re some sort of banana republic,'
one official told POLITICO. 'This is not the way that grown-up
nations do things.'


By NAHAL TOOSI 12/06/16 05:03 AM EST

State Department officials are increasingly fearful that President-elect Donald Trump’s adult children will assume the role of freelance ambassadors, further blurring the line between their business affairs and America's foreign affairs.

The warning signs are already there, current and former diplomats say. Trump's daughter Ivanka sat in on his meeting with the Japanese prime minister. One of Trump's sons is reported to have discussed how to resolve the Syrian war with pro-Russia figures. And the incoming president even suggested that his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, could mediate between Israel and the Palestinians.

Diplomats are nervous that if Trump uses his children and other relatives as informal ambassadors, they could, intentionally or not, upend the carefully structured efforts of the Foreign Service. They worry other nations could take advantage of Trump relatives to circumvent trained U.S. diplomats. They also suspect that even if Trump steps away from his business, his children's extensive corporate dealings could still confuse U.S. foreign policy abroad.

Perhaps more than anything at this early stage, State Department employees are seriously annoyed by the optics.

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Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-children-diplomacy-state-department-232191
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Trump kids' diplomatic forays rattle State Dept. (Original Post) Eugene Dec 2016 OP
The Electoral College needs to do the right thing. nt MADem Dec 2016 #1
The Trump family has existed in a world of their own making. madaboutharry Dec 2016 #2
I agree with your concept. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #14
Yes, that also madaboutharry Dec 2016 #16
Trump thinks the election made him King, and therefore his children are royal too. enough Dec 2016 #3
He seems to think that he and his children are the monarchy. SummerSnow Dec 2016 #11
Grown-ups don't make fun of disabled people either BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #4
Banana Republic Lotusflower70 Dec 2016 #5
I am shocKED SHOCKED to find gambling going on here. nycbos Dec 2016 #6
Get used to it. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #7
"annoyed by the optics". . ? annabanana Dec 2016 #8
+ n/t orleans Dec 2016 #10
so, when will tRump name his kids vassals? nt Javaman Dec 2016 #9
I think it would be a great idea to abolish the State Department! Who needs it? NBachers Dec 2016 #12
Are the Trump kids violating the Logan Act? Louis1895 Dec 2016 #13
Good point MontanaMama Dec 2016 #18
Thanks - Long time reader... Louis1895 Dec 2016 #19
ah the good old days, when the worst thing that could be pointed to mopinko Dec 2016 #15
Seems like the State Department ought to do something other than leak their annoyance MontanaMama Dec 2016 #17
Then STOP them! Come on, what's babylonsister Dec 2016 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #21

madaboutharry

(40,199 posts)
2. The Trump family has existed in a world of their own making.
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 02:38 PM
Dec 2016

They think there are no rules other than the ones they create for themselves. This is how they have lived. The main problem is simple: They don't get it.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
14. I agree with your concept.
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 05:02 PM
Dec 2016

I disagree with your definition of the main problem. Yes, it IS that they don't get it. But the bigger problem is that no one has ever told them "no".

It's about time they learn "no" from someone.

enough

(13,255 posts)
3. Trump thinks the election made him King, and therefore his children are royal too.
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 02:40 PM
Dec 2016

He simply does not understand what a President of the United States is.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
11. He seems to think that he and his children are the monarchy.
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 04:58 PM
Dec 2016

King Donald , Prince Eric , Prince Donald Jr. and Princess Ivanka


Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
5. Banana Republic
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 02:45 PM
Dec 2016

It makes you look that way because you are. Good luck reigning in cheeto man.

'It makes us look like we’re some sort of banana republic,'
one official told POLITICO. 'This is not the way that grown-up
nations do things.'

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
8. "annoyed by the optics". . ?
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 03:48 PM
Dec 2016

by the OPTICS?

His royal court has already started interfering with the Country's business. This is so not healthy.

NBachers

(17,096 posts)
12. I think it would be a great idea to abolish the State Department! Who needs it?
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 04:59 PM
Dec 2016

Think of the money that can be channeled into "other avenues of reward."

Louis1895

(768 posts)
13. Are the Trump kids violating the Logan Act?
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 05:00 PM
Dec 2016
The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments having a dispute with the U.S. It was intended to prevent the undermining of the government's position.


I do not see how the Trump children can act as "informal ambassadors" without breaking the law. Anyone negotiating with foreign powers should be vetted by Congress or, at the minimum, the State Department.

mopinko

(70,067 posts)
15. ah the good old days, when the worst thing that could be pointed to
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 05:02 PM
Dec 2016

was billy carter.

(tho i have some opinions about the smear campaign that took carter down.)

MontanaMama

(23,297 posts)
17. Seems like the State Department ought to do something other than leak their annoyance
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 05:21 PM
Dec 2016

Buckle your seat belts folks, it is going to be a bumpy ride.

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