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Eugene

(61,819 posts)
Tue May 19, 2020, 11:08 AM May 2020

Russia says many coronavirus patients died of other causes. Some disagree

Source: Reuters

WORLD NEWS MAY 19, 2020 / 8:06 AM / UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO

Russia says many coronavirus patients died of other causes. Some disagree

Polina Ivanova, Maria Tsvetkova
6 MIN READ

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Before she died in a Moscow hospital earlier this month, Liubov Kashaeva, 74, twice tested positive for the new coronavirus. Her death was not attributed to the virus, however. It was put down to the cancer she had been suffering from.

“The medical death certificate ... said she died of a malignant tumour,” Kashaeva’s daughter-in-law, Daria Kornilova, said. “Coronavirus was not mentioned anywhere.”

Kashaeva is one of thousands of Russians infected with the novel coronavirus whose deaths have been put down to other causes.

Russia has registered the second highest number of infections globally, at 299,941 total cases, and 2,837 deaths. That produces a death rate of 1.88 per 100,000 Russians, according to Johns Hopkins University.

The equivalent U.S. figure is 27.61 per 100,000 Americans, and 52.45 in Britain.

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Russia says many coronavirus patients died of other causes. Some disagree (Original Post) Eugene May 2020 OP
What people actually die from is not always straightforward. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2020 #1
Yup, just put pneumonia on the death cert... Not complications from Covid19 mitch96 May 2020 #2
Then lets look at the excessive death rate DBoon May 2020 #3
Like accidentally falling out of a hotel window nt doc03 May 2020 #4

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
1. What people actually die from is not always straightforward.
Tue May 19, 2020, 11:35 AM
May 2020

For instance, people rarely die from influenza itself. Most of the time they get a pneumonia that kills them.

The whole thing about people having co-morbidities or other underlying conditions is such a big deal with this virus.

However, the best way to estimate how many people are dying because they got the virus is to look at excess deaths above the normal amount. If deaths simply aren't reported, there's no way of knowing. But if the basic mortality numbers are correct, you know a lot.

A hundred years after the 1918 flu epidemic there's still a huge range in the number of people thought to have died from it. It's going to be the same with this.

mitch96

(13,871 posts)
2. Yup, just put pneumonia on the death cert... Not complications from Covid19
Tue May 19, 2020, 11:40 AM
May 2020

Like the person did not commit suicide by jumping... it was the blunt force trauma... right
They (us and them) will spin it to make it look good for THEM...
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DBoon

(22,340 posts)
3. Then lets look at the excessive death rate
Tue May 19, 2020, 11:49 AM
May 2020

You might see a sudden jump in "pneumonia" and "heart condition" deaths

Strange how that would happen during a coronavirus pandemic.

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