Antisemitism, Terror Support Rampant at Anti-Netanyahu Protests in London

[shira]

Anti-Israel activists hurled antisemitic epithets and waved flags representing terror groups on Wednesday, during a protest against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s visit to London. An estimated 400 demonstrators gathered outside the residence of British Prime Minister David Cameron at 10 Downing Street to protest the arrival in the U.K. of Netanyahu, who is scheduled to meet with Cameron on Thursday morning.

Photos from the rally show protesters holding signs that call for Netanyahu’s arrest, while others wave Palestinian flags and Hezbollah banners. One video from the scene shows a protester taunting Israel supporters nearby. The man, wearing a black-and-white keffiyeh and holding out a coin yells, “Here’s a penny… That’s all you understand. You only understand money.” He was later arrested by police.

Another clip, published on Facebook, shows a Palestinian woman endorsing genocide against Jews before going on to deny the Holocaust. Pro-Israel activist group Sussex Friends of Israel identified the woman as Pamela Hardyment, “a well known antisemite and anti-Israel activist.” Also wearing a black and white keffiyeh and carrying an umbrella adorned with the Palestinian flag, Hardyment told one Jewish protester, “6 million Jews, wiped out. I want them out of Israel… They can f*** off, go into the sea.” When one man suggested “you’d have to kill them all,” she replied, “so be it.”

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The protest comes just days after British Conservative Party Minister and Secretary of State for Business Sajid Javid slammed what he called “dinner-party antisemites” for allowing the spread of anti-Jewish hatred, the Daily Mail reported on Tuesday. Javid condemned the “respectable, middle class people who would recoil in horror if you accused them of racism, but are quite happy to repeat modern takes on age-old myths and slanders about Jews.”

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http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/09/09/antisemitism-terror-support-rampant-at-anti-netanyahu-protests-in-london/

[shira]

1. “A Racist is Calling me Racist”

This video is currently doing the rounds. Watch it, it’s from the PSC demonstration against outside Downing St against Bibi Netayahu and is an excellent example of someone who feels that in the name of the oppression of Palestinians anything goes.

In the name of oppression, the Jews must be oppressed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=19&v=3F7n-tq_Dd8


http://hurryupharry.org/2015/09/10/a-racist-is-calling-me-racist/

[shira]

2. No BBC coverage of antisemitism at event organised by its most promoted NGO

An anti-Israel demonstration which took place in the heart of London on September 9th, ostensibly to protest a two-day visit to the UK by the Israeli prime minister, received no coverage on the BBC News website on the day that it took place.

That editorial decision is all the more interesting when one considers that the Palestine Solidarity Campaign – which organised the protest – and some of its supporting groups are not infrequently promoted on BBC platforms.

http://bbcwatch.org/2015/09/10/no-bbc-coverage-of-antisemitism-at-event-organised-by-its-most-promoted-ngo/

[shira]

3. Asshole Jew hater at rally holding out a penny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=4&v=rfmoCmvqbgg

[grossproffit]

4. Utterly disgusting. I'm sure this topic will elicit immediate responses of condemnation...

not.

[shira]

5. The vile PSC is the UK's leading BDS group. Surprise, Surprise! n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

6. Bibi the baby-killer is a war criminal. He should be arrested if he travels abroad, but Cameroon's

got his back.

[shira]

7. London: Calls for 'Zero Tolerance' After Anti-Semitic Protest

British Jewish, pro-Israel groups call on UK authorities to intervene after anti-Netanyahu rally, say anti-Semites 'hiding in plain sight.'

"Open support for terror organisations which advocate for the genocide of Jews must not be tolerated in the UK or anywhere," Jonathan Sacerdoti, director of communications for the Campaign Against Antisemitism, stated to Arutz Sheva. "It is distressing that anti-Israel groups so often seem to have within them a number of people who express such support, and also other aggressively anti-Semitic views."

"The longer these people are allowed to shelter from the law by hiding in plain sight among anti-Israel activists, the greater their number will grow," he continued. "It should be a concern to everyone, whatever their views on Israel, that this is the case. Debate about Israel must not become a license to persecute and discriminate against Jewish people."

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/200561#.VfIa-NNViko

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

8. I'm glad that you can feel comfortable supporting Netanbooboo.

It's quite a tell of yours, you liberal you.



Your original post that I answered to.

7. Doesn't mean much when ugly haters are the only ones protesting in London. n/t

I'm not sure how much uglier BooBoo can get than he already is.

[shira]

9. There's no Justice in hate.

Calling out London protestors for their Jew hatred does not = support for Netanyahu.

Opposing the vile hatred of the PSC is what the OP is about.

Why would you want to derail this thread?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

10. "There's no Justice in hate."

Irony

noun, plural ironies.
1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning:
the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.

2. Literature.
a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.

It is ironic that you attempt to play the victim and flail about for the murderer of hundreds of Gazan children, my dear.

By unmasking you support for Netanbooboo, I show your true form to reading DUers.


But it's the usual ploy, no? Bibi goes abroad and the "Look how I am the victim" vaudeville song and dance begins.


Netanbooboo is a sick, narcissistic monster, and you should know that it is unwise to support such a monster.


But please proceed, shira.

[shira]

25. So Jews on the receiving end of the hate we see in London...

....are just crying victim? Or is it they can't be victims?

You think pointing out ass hats who are in no way embarrassed to spew their vile Jew hatred in public is a ploy to play the victim?

What are you trying to say?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

34. When a few crazy bigots say horrible things

they should be called on it, but that dies not mean they are representative of the majority that want to see netanbooboo arested fir war crimes.

What I am saying is that you are using them as representative of the greater group and use them to play the victim, IMHO.

My main point is that Netanbooboo should not be able to leave Israel fir fear of being arrested for war crimes, and that is what these protests are about.

Please proceed, shira.

[shira]

52. See #50. n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

53. See post #35.

And while you're at it please read it this time.

[6chars]

11. This line from the article resonates

Javid condemned the “respectable, middle class people who would recoil in horror if you accused them of racism, but are quite happy to repeat modern takes on age-old myths and slanders about Jews.”

[Little Tich]

12. From what I can see, the anti-Semitic events in the headline is actually about only one person,

and he got arrested.

It's conceivable that Algemeiner is trying to stretch the truth...

[shira]

13. You missed the Jew hater with the penny. Also waving of Hezbollah flags.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Anti-Israel-protesters-clash-with-police-as-Netanyahu-meets-UKs-Cameron-in-London-415732

Nice progressive rally.

[Little Tich]

15. It was the guy with the penny that I was referring to.

Hezbollah flags are not an expression of anti-Semitism, nor are they in themselves support for terrorism. I don't think the Hezbollah flags are appropriate, they are after all the bad guys, but it must be pointed out that they helped in forcing Israel out of Lebanon, and that might be the context.

Fortunately, the protest was small and politically insignificant.

[shira]

16. Then you missed the video of the lady calling for genocide...

Here it is again..

She says her friends are Hamas...

Being friends of Hamas or Hezbollah means being for the killing of all Jews because that's their agenda.

[Little Tich]

17. Ah. I missed that the crazy umbrella lady was actually at the rally, and not somewhere else.

Perhaps I was wrong about the reporting then - my bad...

I must say to my defense that I think that the article conveys a general sentiment that anti-Israel is somehow anti-Semitic.

[oberliner]

29. The "crazy umbrella lady" is a member of the National Union of Journalists

She also purports to be the Arts Editor of the Palestine Telegraph.

[shira]

32. She was going all Jew crazy back in 2007...

http://www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/leo-mckinstry/8463/Shame-on-the-left-and-its-vicious-hatred-of-Israel

[Little Tich]

46. I did a quick Google on Pamela Hardyment, and perhaps it's best to let sleeping dogs lie...

She's got other problems, and I don't feel OK trashing her.

[shira]

14. More from the same rally...

"You call yourselves humans? You're blood drinking swines & child killers!"

[leftynyc]

18. Repulsive pieces of crap

So where are all the apologists who are going to tell me those in London have every reason in the world to deny the holocaust, call for the death of all Jews, throw pennies at Jews (not Israelis)?

[guillaumeb]

19. Protesting a war criminal does not make one an anti-Semite.

It makes one anti-war criminals.

That said, the actions of a few British fascists and anti-Semites is no reflection on people who demonstrate against Prime Minister Netanyahu. And their actions, the actions of those who apparently approve of the genocide, were disgusting.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

22. Agreed. These kinds of events will always bring out an unsavory element, but it is the

intent of the "anti-Semite" screamers to paint these few crazies as the main event instead of the sideshow that it is.

[oberliner]

30. Why would these kinds of events bring out an unsavory element?

What is it about them that is appealing to those unsavory characters?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

36. Most events bring out unsavory characters, ober.

[oberliner]

37. You don't see this kind of anti-semitism at a Bernie Sanders rally

And those get way more people.

Why does this particular event draw these unsavory characters do you think and not, say, a Bernie Sanders event?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

38. actually, have you been to a Bernie Sander's rally?

[oberliner]

39. Unfortunately I am homebound

But I have seen many clips on tv and online.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

41. Well that's not really the same thing, now is it?

Last edited Sat Sep 12, 2015, 10:47 PM - Edit history (1)

But to answer your query one cannot be certain that some unscrupulous people attend his events and are ignored or shrugged off, right?

Remember Seattle?

corrections / sp

[oberliner]

42. No but wouldn't there be video of such things like there is in this case?

I would imagine there would be.

If not video then at least pictures.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

43. I asked if you remembered Seattle?

It was a kind of obvious query.

[oberliner]

45. Are you talking about the Seattle Jewish Federation shooting?

I'm not sure I understand what you are getting at.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

47. Are you being purposefully obtuse when asking about Bernie Sanders rallies?

It's not Anti-Semitism, ober, but it definitely reinforces my point.

36. Most events bring out unsavory characters, ober.

Some get on stage and scream like banshies.

Some hurl epithets.

None should be taken seriously.


I hope that you can connect the dots without any further hand holding on the subject.

[oberliner]

48. I think I understand your point

However, I would point out that the BLM group was disrupting the Sanders event whereas the unsavory characters at this UK protest were there in support of the event and the cause.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

49. However it doesn't meant that the event or cause is in support of them, now does it?

The answer that you are looking for is no.

[shira]

26. It's not just the actions of a few British fascists & anti-Semites...

When BDS people support, justify, or defend Hamas actions (given Hamas' aim to kill all the Jews) that's just as bad as the lady in the video.

What's the damned difference?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

40. Let's put this into perspective and see if thrre is a chance to

enlighten you...


Some decry a few bigoted assholes here and there and paint them as the backbone of BDS...which at face value is laughable.

I believe that these dubious persons do this purposefully, IMHO, to discredit the movement that they hate, and very possibly to see how much guilt they can ferrit in their favour.

But what strikes me as most hypocritical about these noxious pretenders is that while decrying the BDS movement, for the actions of some that may not be part of the movement, they turn a blind eye to the very real, brutal, expansionist and murderous actions of the apartheid state, Israel: the epitome of zionism.

Get it?

So, IMHO, these miscreants, who wish to discredit BDS, are really doing it to dismiss attention away from the very real actions of the very real bigots and assholes who use zionism as a mechanism to destroy a people while demanding sympathy at the same time.

BDS is the answer to these degenerates.

[shira]

50. Omar Barghouti, Ali Abunimah, FreeGaza, & Mondoweiss are the backbone of BDS...

Along with the Max Blumenthal, Rania Khalek, the ISM, SJP, Palestinian Solidarity Committee, +972, Jeremy Corbyn, ANSWER, Gilad Atzmon, Richard Falk, Paul Eisen, CodePink, Sabeel, IfAmericansKnew, S.Africa BDS, Yvonne Ridley, Lauren Booth, George Galloway, Norm Finkelstein, Jonathan Cook, Anna Baltzer, Mustafa Barghouti, Juan Cole, Joseph Massad, Marc Ellis, Anthony Loewenstein, Frank Barat....

Let's first see if we can agree these folks are the backbone of BDS before moving on.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

55. See post #54.

[shira]

59. Can't answer another simple question? Well, so much for yr false claim...

Give it up, Ace.

You confidently bragged throughout this thread that BDS is an honorable movement & that only a few extreme fringe bigots within BDS are the problem. They're not the backbone of BDS..

But when questioned about BDS leadership - the actual backbone of BDS - you punted.



Suddenly, BDS has no leaders.



Looks like you're not all that confident about BDS anymore, are you? Otherwise, you'd have confidently answered that one about their leadership.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

62. Really, shira. See post #54 and follow the trail.

[shira]

63. The leadership of BDS is so foul, you won't even attempt to defend them...

Not that they can be defended, as you know.

It's funny you think your deflections, non-responses, emoticons, & insults are a substitute for reasoned debate.

You're better off not responding when you have nothing in return. You're just digging yourself deeper....

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

64. BDS is a world wide movement now, but I understand your

deliberate attempts to discredit them any way you are able.

Your fear is palpable, and it is understandable how that fear can manifest itself in hatred of a peaceable movement that Israel cannot crush.

Let me repeat that.

Your fear is palpable, and it is understandable how that fear can manifest itself in hatred of a peaceable movement that Israel cannot crush.

[shira]

65. LoL. Whose fear is palpable? You're the one who is so obviously desperate...

...to avoid answering the simplest questions about BDS leadership. You know, that leadership you believe to be so moral, so just, so honorable......like saints & prophets.



[font color = "red"]Hell, I challenge you to name just one BDS leader - only one - who is recognized as a leader within BDS and who symbolizes the peaceful movement you claim BDS to be. Can you do it? Can you find one who isn't bigoted, who doesn't support Hamas, who doesn't want the Jewish state destroyed? How hard can that be? [/font]

We all anxiously await your response...all 5 of us keeping up with this fakakta thread.



I predict - and I'd put money on this if I could - that you'll punt again & deflect with yet another insubstantial reply. Probably the same post you've repeated the last 3X....as if you believe you've actually proven your point to the 4 people now reading this drek & applauding your work.

Prove me wrong.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

66. I did answer you query, but it appears that you are not able to read...or comprehend.

[leftynyc]

56. It's up to the legitimate

protesters to condemn the garbage. If they can't see fit to at least do that, they're useless.

[Israeli]

20. No place for racism in our movement........

September 10, 2015

Statement from Hugh Lanning, PSC Chair:

The Palestine Solidarity Campaign is an anti-racist organisation campaigning for Palestinian rights. We are appalled at the acts of racism and antisemitism we witnessed at the protest against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s visit to the UK to meet David Cameron.

There is no place for racism in the Palestine solidarity movement. To those individuals who attempt to hijack PSC campaigns, meetings or demonstrations as a vehicle for their own antisemitism and hatred, we strongly condemn your actions and beliefs. Such views have no place in our movement.

The demonstration was to bring public attention to the war crimes Israel has committed. The role of the British Government should be to hold Israel to account under international law, not to trade arms with them.

To our Jewish supporters who are PSC members or activists, and the wider Jewish community in the UK, we stand united with you against antisemitism in whichever form it takes.

The actions of these racists, who are neither PSC members nor supporters, detracts from solidarity with Palestine and enables Israel to escape the global scrutiny it deserves. PSC has expelled members in the past who have violated our core anti-racist principles and will do so again if necessary.

- See more at: http://www.palestinecampaign.org/no-place-for-racism/#sthash.ztNE7Pdg.dpuf

Source: http://www.palestinecampaign.org/no-place-for-racism/

[shira]

21. Meanwhile, the Guardian newspaper completely whitewashes this Jew hatred

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/09/binyamin-netanyahu-flies-to-uk-as-protesters-demand-his-arrest

Nothing there even hinting at this ugly display.

Must be because all Jews are Zionists, Zionists are never victims of anything, and what was on display was simply anti-Zionism which is perfectly humane and peaceful.

But the media is failing in its job to report the true face of these movements; it is failing Israel, it is failing British Jews and it is failing the fundamental values of our society. It is allowing these vile creatures out of the corners and onto the high streets, into the campus and into the mainstream.

After todays events, it was the job of the media to headline that the PSC protest saw calls for a genocide of Jews, to point out that this call came on the streets of London and that it was waving the flag of terrorists. Shameless? The protest today or the media response, I am yet to work out which is the more shameful.

http://ukmediawatch.org/2015/09/10/when-criticism-of-israel-crosses-the-line-to-extreme-antisemitism-london-edition/

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

23. Perhaps the Guardian realizes that the fringe racists are fringe racists, but that the protest was

legitimate, and that those calling for his arrest view him as a war criminal?

Netanyahu’s spoke to reporters as he prepared to fly to London, while protesters demonstrated outside Downing Street against his visit and a petition for his arrest for alleged war crimes from last summer’s conflict in Gaza swelled beyond 100,000 signatures.

There will always be those less that scrupulous individuals who will try to derail that fact that many believe that Netanbooboo is a war criminal, by pretending that the fringe racists and bigots are the leaders of these events.


Please proceed, shira.

[shira]

24. It's not just fringe racists. Nice try. Omar Barghouti is the leader of BDS....

He says it's perfectly legitimate to boycott American Jews like Matisyahu.

Meanwhile, BDS had no problem with a "burn the gays" homophobe singing at the same concert with Matisyahu.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

35. BDS is a world wide movement now, but I understand your

deliberate attempts to duscredit them any way you are able.

Your fear is palpable, and it is understandable how that fear can manifest itself in hatred of a peaceable movement that Israel cannot crush.

[shira]

51. See #50. n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

54. See post #53.

[procon]

28. Maybe because "Jew hatred" isn't the focus of the majority of the protestors, yeah?

Don't cherry pick the few nuts that prop up your position and then just ignore what the protest was about. If 107,000 people in Britain signed a petition calling for Netanyahu's arrest for what he did to Gaza, it reflects what much of the world considers to be war crimes. The protesters want him to know that he is not welcome because of his government's
policies and actions against the subjugated people in occupied Palestine.

Yet your only take away is a feeble attempt to redirect the accusations of the protestors to, "Jew hatred"? Can you address their actual complaints without throwing out these outliers as a distraction from the real, and quite valid, criticisms of the state of Israel's policies against Palestinian civilians?

[shira]

31. What makes you believe they're outliers?

The loudest, most hostile protestors of Israel are the BDS people.

The leadership of BDS thought it was a good idea recently to boycott the artist Matisyahu in Spain due to the fact he's an American Jew. At the same concert, they welcomed a "burn the gays" homophobe.

I haven't seen any BDS groups condemn that.

[procon]

33. The article you cited makes no mention of anything related to "BDS".

This might be your special bugaboo, but you can't just insert it into this thread as a distraction when it has nothing to do with the topic you presented for discussion. The article you linked to has a somewhat slanted POV and takes pains to paint Israel as a victim by trying to link the protesters to unverifiable claims made by various bloggers and youtubers which are questionable as bona fide news sources.

Meanwhile, other news sources actually explained that Londoners protested Netanyahu's visit because they are outraged over the State of Israel's treatment of Palestinian civilians in Gaza. Again, there was no reference to "BDS".

Maybe you need a different thread to promote your "BDS" theories.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

58. Because you are comaining about them...

We have to keep thise memes going, now don't we?

[LoveIsNow]

27. Not Surprising that you would see these elements

at a protest. What is surprising (read terrifying) is that people here are defending them.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

44. To a hammer everything looks like a nail.

[leftynyc]

57. Not surprising in the slightest

You obviously haven't been here that long (based on your low post count - a belated welcome) but whitewashing anti semitism in the guise of anti-Zionism is old hat around here. Something that would never be allowed with bigots against African Americans or gays.

[shira]

60. +1. "...whitewashing antisemitism in the guise of anti-Zionism"

Ain't that the truth.

Proven time after time after time....

[FarrenH]

61. 1000 protesters, 3 antisemites identified

That's 0.3%

Headline reads "Terror support, antisemitism rampant". That's not stretching the facts. It's lying.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

67. Some want to destroy BDS at all costs. They're afraid.