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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:38 PM Sep 2015

Suspected Israeli settler opens fire at Palestinian car near Nablus

http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=767722

NABLUS (Ma’an) -- A suspected Israeli settler allegedly opened fire on Saturday at a Palestinian vehicle near the illegal Israeli settlement of Elon Moreh in the northern occupied West Bank, a local monitor said.

Ghassan Daghlas, who monitors settler activities in the northern West Bank, told Ma’an that one person drove the car of the attacker, which has Israeli number plates, while another shot live rounds at a Palestinian vehicle with Palestinian number plates.
No injuries have been reported.
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Tensions with Israeli settlers have been running high in the occupied Palestinian territory since an 18-month-old Palestinian toddler and his parents were killed in an arson attack on their home in southern Nablus at the end of July.

The toddler's father died a week after the attack, while the mother, Riham Dawabsha, succumbed to her wounds on Sept. 7, more than one month later.
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Suspected Israeli settler opens fire at Palestinian car near Nablus (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 OP
148 attacks on Palestinians R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #1
This article appears to contain contradictory information oberliner Sep 2015 #2
Does one have to have been shot in order to be a victim of an attack? No. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #3
Yes, that is what the word victim means oberliner Sep 2015 #4
Strange how you believe that a victim of an attempted shooting is a non-victim. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #5
Good points oberliner Sep 2015 #6
 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
1. 148 attacks on Palestinians
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:40 PM
Sep 2015
Israeli settlers have carried out at least 148 attacks on Palestinians in occupied East Jerusalem and the West Bank since the start of this year, according to the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.


148 attacks on Palestinians, and Bibi the baby-killer wants an open season on sniping Palestinians.


For some reason, I see Israel getting its comeuppance in a most fitting and humiliating way not too far into the future.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. This article appears to contain contradictory information
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:43 PM
Sep 2015

It says "the victim in the shooting has been identified as Ammar Naim Sarkaji" but then it also says "No injuries have been reported" just the sentence previous.

The article also says the car of the attacker "has Israeli number plates" but that "No description of the attacker's vehicle has been given at this time."

Also odd that the article includes a photo from 2010.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
3. Does one have to have been shot in order to be a victim of an attack? No.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:50 PM
Sep 2015

The article also says the car of the attacker "has Israeli number plates" but that "No description of the attacker's vehicle has been given at this time."


And?

Also odd that the article includes a photo from 2010.

Yes. Added for emphasis that illegal Israeli colonistas are armed and dangerous whereas Palestinian usually aren't.


But thanks for that overwhelming concern of yours.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. Yes, that is what the word victim means
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 10:54 PM
Sep 2015

vic·tim

noun
a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action.

Also, how is it that one can identify the license plate but not be able to describe the vehicle?

And usually news stories include photos that are more current - and directly related to the story in question. but Ma'an does this sort of thing all the time so I guess that is their way.

Regardless, I am glad that no one was injured.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
5. Strange how you believe that a victim of an attempted shooting is a non-victim.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 11:31 PM
Sep 2015

It speaks volumes as to your insensitivity to Palestinians being harassed/targeted by gun wielding illegal colonistas.

Are they victims when they are burnt to a crisp or sniped dead? Or are there other excuses to use then?


Also, how is it that one can identify the license plate but not be able to describe the vehicle?



Well, my injudicious friend, either you are playing it slow tonight on purpose or you really don't know.

Israeli license plates are black type on yellow back. I'm sure that you knew that. Right?
I'm really sure that you knew that so I have to ask why the play at mental lethargy?

Palestinian plates are Green type on white so the mystery is solved there.

There was no language that said anything about not being able to describe the vehicle. What was written was...

"No description of the attacker's vehicle has been given at this time."

I understand that it is splitting hairs with you, but what I have come to expect from your indolent retorts is the route of plausible deniability. It doesn't work, but it does make your questioning appear rather awkward.

The photo was added to illustrate that illegal Israeli colonistas carry guns. It's a pity that Ma'an, a news source that you recently used doesn't appear to be up to your standards presently.

But I also have to ask what are your standards?
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. Good points
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 07:02 AM
Sep 2015

I guess my comment was kind of dumb. The word victim does seem reasonable.

As for the plates, it just seems like if someone saw the plates than they could also describe the vehicle, but I guess that is a minor point as well.

I think Ma'an is fine. They are biased, of course, like a lot of Israeli news sources, but that's the way it goes.

I'd like to know more about what happened. Were there other witnesses? Any attempt to get a statement from the Israeli side? Hopefully there can be some more reporting on this.

If someone shot at a vehicle, they ought to be arrested.

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