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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 07:11 AM Oct 2015

Palestinian woman stabs Israeli near Jerusalem holy site: police

Last edited Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:04 AM - Edit history (1)

An 18-year-old Palestinian woman stabbed an Israeli near a contested shrine in Jerusalem on Wednesday and was then shot and wounded by the injured man, Israeli police said, the third knife attack in the city in less than a week.

Police said the attacker struck in an alleyway near the Western Wall, a Jewish prayer site abutting the al Aqsa mosque complex - Islam's third holiest shrine which Jews also revere as the vestige of their two ancient temples.

Both Israel and the U.S.-backed administration of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas have sought to calm a surge in street violence that has been exacerbated by confrontations between Palestinian protesters and armed officers at the al Aqsa site.

Four Israelis have been killed in stabbings in Jerusalem and a drive-by shooting in the occupied West Bank since Thursday, and two Palestinians have been shot dead and scores injured in clashes with security services, triggering fears of an escalation.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/07/us-israel-palestinians-violence-idUSKCN0S10YV20151007

Story appears to still be live at this link (UK version of Reuters):

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/10/07/uk-israel-palestinians-violence-idUKKCN0S10YT20151007

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shira

(30,109 posts)
1. Al Jazeera headline: Palestinian woman 'shot after stabbing Israeli man'
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:04 AM
Oct 2015

Gee, I wonder why they'd report it that way...

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. Middle East Monitor headline: "Palestinian girl shot by Jewish settler in East Jerusalem"
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:07 AM
Oct 2015

They even try to pretend that she didn't stab anyone. And that loathsome disingenuous article was posted here.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
3. Even better. These publications are following the Jew-hating script to a tee
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:12 AM
Oct 2015

Of course, this isn't at all what's happening in thousands of reports coming out of Israel....



We can find these types of headlines every day, with every new story...

Don't you think?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. Yes - they follow the Mondoweiss/Electronic Intifada Playbook
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:29 AM
Oct 2015

Middle East Monitor is the most recent entry into this alternate universe.

Everything that happens is reduced to: "Mean Jew does Horrible Thing to Innocent Palestinian for No Reason".

Mondoweiss in particular tends to highlight Jew rather than Israeli.

They are just like the Kahanist websites that do: "Mean Arab does Horrible Thing to Innocent Jew for No Reason"

For some reason, folks here are able to be repulsed by those sites, but not the others.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
5. That's exactly the point I made here:
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:37 AM
Oct 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=114563

Mondoweiss has been shown to be a bigoted hateful vanity site over and over and yet it is posted here by one particular poster a few times a day.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. What I find odd
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:42 AM
Oct 2015

If someone posts something sourced to NGO Monitor or similar, the response is: how can you post that RW crap here?

But if someone (like me) expresses similar disgust at posts from Mondoweiss or Middle East Monitor, the response is: talk about the content of the article, stop deflecting by criticizing the source!

I miss the days when the I/P forum posts were limited to discussion of articles found at legitimate news sites.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
7. It's not odd. It's how the game is played.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:44 AM
Oct 2015

This is a GIGANTIC part of the anti-Israel cause today...

Even to point it out here helps the cause, as the 'kicks' enable others to see these despicable headlines.

Notice all the 'Thanks' for the kicks here, for the worst most despicable media manipulation that's pointed out deep within the thread? Those living for the kicks and recs are an important part of the game too.

It's scary.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
11. Middle East monitor has problems yes
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 10:12 AM
Oct 2015

Mondoweiss is blatantly anti Jewish and Weiss doesn't even pretend otherwise and yet it's still allowed

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
13. I actually think Middle East Monitor might be worse
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 10:24 AM
Oct 2015

Because they actually purport to be a legitimate news site, whereas Mondoweiss explicitly is just Phil's vanity blog. They are quite a bit more open and transparent about themselves. Phil even put his last name in the name of the website. Daud Abdullah does a bit more obfuscating with Middle East Monitor. They will sometimes have articles with no bylines attached and so forth.

For example their "Palestinian girl shot by Jewish settler in East Jerusalem" that was posted here has no author listed.

The first ten paragraphs are word for word identical to this article from another source:

http://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/palestinian-girl-shot-by-jewish-settler-in-e-jerusalem/436123

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
12. Far too many here
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 10:14 AM
Oct 2015

want an echo chamber. Anything that doesn't cast Israel as the evil enemy and Palestinians as innocent, helpless kittens is obviously a right wing source. Mondoweiss is a pathetic piece of shit site that gets posted here far too much but asking for consistency on the issue of sources is apparently too much to ask.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
19. untrue but do you approve of this sort of gun toting self defense?
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 02:57 AM
Oct 2015

A Palestinian girl was shot and injured by a Jewish settler on Wednesday near an entrance to the Old City of Jerusalem after she allegedly tried to stab him, according to Israeli media reports.

The girl was seriously wounded in the incident while the Jewish settler sustained moderate injuries, Israeli media reported.

According to Israeli police, the girl was shot by the settler near the Old City’s Al-Sbat Gate, after which she was taken to Jerusalem’s Hadassah Medical Center.

Palestinian eyewitnesses, however, told Anadolu Agency that girl - who, they said, had not been holding a knife - was attacked for no reason by the Jewish settler.

After the girl threw the settler to the ground, Palestinian witnesses said, the latter drew a gun a shot her four times.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/21507-palestinian-girl-shot-by-jewish-settler-in-east-jerusalem

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. Yeah, Reuters has a tendency to do that sort of thing
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 09:03 AM
Oct 2015

They put up a new article replacing the previous one on the same general topic but don't change the url. The information about the stabbing is still included in their new article, but I think the older one is gone.

Reuters UK has the older one here (as of now):

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/10/07/uk-israel-palestinians-violence-idUKKCN0S10YT20151007

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
14. is this the woman who's body was stripped naked by Israeli activists who posted photo of it online?
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 06:59 PM
Oct 2015

Take for example the distribution of photos of Hadeel al-Hashlamon by right-wing Israeli activists. The corpse of a 19-year-old religious Palestinian woman has become the subject of ridicule and cruelty online. The young woman who insisted on modestly covering her body is stripped naked for all to see. Someone writes: “With such a hair body, it’s good thing she was murdered,” “I suggest all terrorists wear normal underwear before an attack because we photograph everything.”

http://972mag.com/a-different-type-of-terrorism/112451/

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. Yes there have sadly been quite a few Palestinians stabbing Israelis lately
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 10:39 PM
Oct 2015

And a growing number of them seem to be female.

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