Reality Check: Gaza is still occupied

[polly7]

Mehdi Hasan challenges Israel's argument that it no longer occupies the Gaza Strip.
23 Oct 2015 19:53 GMT

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Reality Check: Gaza is still occupied

Mehdi Hasan challenges Israel's argument that it no longer occupies the Gaza Strip.

23 Oct 2015 19:53 GMT | Middle East, War & Conflict, Gaza, Israel, Palestine

Israel says it no longer occupies Gaza after disengaging from the strip of land in 2005.

But Palestinians, international organisations, human rights groups and governments, including the United States, argue Gaza is still occupied.

In the Reality Check, Mehdi Hasan challenges Israel's narrative, arguing the country still controls Gaza's borders, airspace and territorial waters. He also points to the fact Israel controls the population register, meaning the government defines who is and who is not a resident of Gaza.

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/upfront/2015/10/reality-check-gaza-occupied-151023153703888.html

[oberliner]

1. Important to also note that there are no Israeli settlements in Gaza

And that Palestinians in Gaza are governed independently by Hamas (intermittently in coordination with the PA).

The occupation of the West Bank (which has many Israeli settlements) is very different from the occupation of Gaza (which has none).

It is important to appreciate the many significant differences between the two.

[polly7]

2. Important to note all of the ways Israel controls every facet of these millions of peoples' lives.

As stated in the article and video.

[oberliner]

3. The article does note those things

I think it is also important for people to realize the very different realities that exist in Gaza and the West Bank.

The West Bank is dotted with Israeli settlements and there are numerous checkpoints and other impediments imposed by Israel on a percentage of the Palestinians who live there.

Gaza has none of these things.

[polly7]

4. So what's your problem??

Gaza is STILL occupied!

[oberliner]

10. There is no problem

I was adding supplemental information for anyone who is interested.

[shira]

8. Israel doesn't control every facet.... That's nuts.

Israel can't control anything Hamas does or incites their people to do.

[Fozzledick]

5. Reality: Gaza is not occupied

but some people are so obsessed with promoting an anti-Israel propaganda agenda that they don't care about reality.

Meanwhile the West Bank remains occupied as a natural defense against the kind of terrorist aggression that resulted from ending the occupation of Gaza.

[King_David]

6. Yep

[shira]

9. Clear thinking people who don't reflexively hate Israel know that. n/t

[TubbersUK]

7. If I remember correctly

Israel also controls (and periodically withholds) Gaza revenues.

[6chars]

11. Israel should stop controlling Egypt's border with Gaza

right?

[shira]

12. Right, Egypt must be occupying Gaza too. Crazy.Talk. n/t