How the government rewards its most violent settlers

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

http://972mag.com/how-the-government-rewards-its-most-violent-settlers/113683/

One would expect the Israeli government to put an end to attacks by the settlers of Adei Ad on Palestinian civilians. In fact, it rewards them by planning to legalize their West Bank outpost.


During the second Sukkot holiday and the weekend preceding it, Yesh Din investigators documented 29 incidents of assault on Palestinians and their property by Israeli civilians (note that these are only the incidents known to us). The majority of the Israeli media did not report on the incidents, which included an attempt to set the home of a Palestinian family on fire using a firebomb, as well as an assault on an ambulance near the village of Burin. In a series of cases, IDF soldiers reportedly stood idly by and did not prevent attacks on the innocent or their property, despite their legal obligation to do so.

People unfamiliar with the events in the West Bank may think that ideological violence by Israeli civilians only appears as a response to terror attacks. In reality, such attacks take place on ordinary days as well. The response of those responsible for law enforcement in the West Bank – the Israeli government and the IDF – is the same: to ignore Israeli law breakers as much as possible. Israeli civilians know that when they go on the prowl, not only (despite the claims of the Minister of Defense) will IDF troops treat them less harshly when they throw stones or set fields ablaze.The security forces will also aid them by using crowd-dispersal weapons against Palestinian landowners, not the trespassers – who often walk into the very center of Palestinian villages. They also know that no one else will do anything to them. The chance that the complaint lodged by a Palestinian will lead to the conviction of an Israeli who commits an ideological crime is only 1.9 percent.

And they know something else too: that the government of Israel, forced to pretend to be shocked, absolutely shocked by their attacks, is not all that perturbed. Two days before the recent wave of violence erupted, the prosecution informed the High Court of Justice, in response to our petition, that not only does it have no intention of removing the outpost of Adei Ad, it actually intends to legalize it.

[geek tragedy]

1. The Price Tag terrorists are Israel's shock troops in its campaign

to create Greater Israel.

Every once and a while they detain a couple of Kahanists to maintain plausible deniability, but while the settlers may believe they're doing god's work, facts on the ground indicate they're doing Netanyahu's work.

Just ask the Dawabsheh family.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

2. There's a price tag poster that apparently doesn't understand that is is a barbaric idea

to just kill people, of the other group mind you wink wink, just because they can.

If they are of the right group, wink wink, then they get a mulligan.


I am really fu@king sick of these junior hasbarist assholes polluting every fu@king discussion with their sophomoric Netanyahu-brand talking points.

They fool nobody: fake liberals that they are.

[Crunchy Frog]

3. There are certain things that NOBODY calling themselves a "progressive" could possibly support.

That they're still posting on this site speaks volumes to me.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

4. There are plenty of operatives on DU, IMHO, that would never vote D ever.

But they like to pretend they speak for the Democratic party all the time.


Know them by their works.

[sabbat hunter]

17. care to name names

of those you think are 'operatives' and would never vote D? that is a big accusation, and you should back it up by naming names.\

[King_David]

18. In such matters one can only talk for ones-self...

And that's probably whom that poster was talking about - himself....

[sabbat hunter]

19. kicking

to see if R Daniel cares to respond.

[King_David]

22. Guess not. nt

[King_David]

6. Sanders’ Israel policy seems likely to tilt more toward Tel Aviv than that of Obama

Sanders’ Israel policy seems likely to tilt more toward Tel Aviv than that of Obama, though Sanders did boycott the address of PM Binyamin Netanyahu to Congress in March.


http://www.juancole.com/2015/04/president-bernie-sanders.html






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[Crunchy Frog]

7. If you could please show me where Sanders supports settler violence against Palestinians.

I'd appreciate the information. If you can't provide evidence from reputable sources, I'd appreciate it if you would stop slandering the man. Thank you.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

8. You'll have to wait a while for that.

IMHO, the king doesn't exactly exude accuracy or candor.

[King_David]

9. Of course he does not support settler violence

He is however a very strong supporter of Israel as all Democratic candidates are.

[Crunchy Frog]

10. This thread was about settler violence, not about generalized political support of Israel.

By posting what you did in THIS thread, you heavily implied that Sanders supports settler violence against Palestinians.

I hope you're not claiming to be a Sanders supporter, because posting such an implication, unless you can back it up factually, is absolutely disgusting.

I don't think there's a poster here who doesn't already know that all candidates of both parties, and virtually all US elected officials, profess "strong support" for Israel.

[King_David]

11. If you the "Bernie Sanders "supporter police

I'm afraid your in the wrong camp ... If you think he does not support Israel.....


I MOST DEFINITELY AM A BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTER !!!!


Not so sure about you though...



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[grossproffit]

12. +1 SMH

[Crunchy Frog]

13. I'll be voting for the Democratic nominee. I'm not supporting any particular candidate this time.

So I'm a Sanders supporter if he gets the nomination. I did state in my last post that I am perfectly aware that he and all the other candidates of both parties "support Israel", so you're not teaching me anything new here.

Since you're on this board insinuating that Sanders supports settler violence against Palestinians, with no evidence to back this up, I would have to conclude that you're not a very good Sanders supporter, as you are practically slandering him.

I believe that he's a good and decent man, and would not appreciate your insinuations.

JMHO.

[King_David]

14. Since I made no such insinuation...at all....

You invented it , my friend.


NOT COOL !!!

[Crunchy Frog]

15. You posted on a thread titled "How the (Israeli) government rewards its most violent settlers"

About how much Sanders supports Israel. Whether you intended it or not, it looks like you're suggesting that he supports settler violence. I don't know how else one would be expected to interpret such a post in such a thread.

You bet your ass it's NOT COOL.

[King_David]

16. Sorry don't really understand.

What ?

[Israeli]

5. Standing idly by.....

https://www.facebook.com/yeshdin/videos/10153385254167604/

[Mosby]

20. How to Avoid Israeli Brutality

Cartoons are fun!

[grossproffit]

21. Common sense isn't all that common any longer.

[Israeli]

23. So are movies .....

One State Solution - Official Trailer