Trump: Israel may not want peace with Palestinians

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4734724,00.html

"A lot will have to do with Israel and whether or not Israel wants to make the deal - whether or not Israel's willing to sacrifice certain things," Trump told AP. "They may not be, and I understand that, and I'm OK with that. But then you're just not going to have a deal."

Pressed to explain his comments on Thursday, Trump refused to back down. "I don't know that Israel has the commitment to make it, and I don't know the other side has the commitment to make it," Trump said.

The comment drew murmurs of disapproval. He soon drew a smattering of boos after refusing to say whether Jerusalem should serve as the undivided capital of Israel, a priority for many in America's pro-Israel lobby.

Trump shrugged off the criticism. "You're not going to support me even though you know I'm the best thing that could happen to Israel," Trump said. "I know why you're not going to support me: because I don't want your money."

Wow. A republican asshole told the truth about Israel.

And the boos and whining within the GOP begin.

[Wellstone ruled]

1. Holy Hannah,the truth.

[oberliner]

2. Salon: Donald Trump just delivered an anti-Semitic speech to the Republican Jewish Coalition

On Thursday, Republican front-runner Donald Trump delivered a speech before the Republican Jewish Coalition in which he essentially praised members of the organization for being a bunch of Shylocks.

“Stupidly, you want to give me money,” he began. But he added that “you’re not going to support me because I don’t want your money,” suggesting that Jews are unwilling to back people whose purse-strings they can’t control, a classic anti-Semitic trope

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/03/one_yuuuuuge_mistake_donald_trump_just_delivered_an_anti_semitic_speech_to_the_republican_jewish_coalition/

Of course, leave it to Philip Weiss (Mondoweiss) to come to Trump's defense:

Trump wasn’t anti-Semitic

Donald Trump’s comments to the Republican Jewish Coalition yesterday about his audience including great negotiators who want to buy candidates were not anti-semitic, as a lot of liberal writers are claiming. The quips were a generalization, surely, but an accurate one.

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/12/trump-wasnt-semitic#sthash.7mitvMeX.dpuf

[azurnoir]

4. I'm confused here - Did you repeat a quote that was already in the snip just to put that title up or

did you not read the snip?

[King_David]

6. Why would you be confused?

It's perfectly clear and exactly as is at the links.

Press on the hyperlink below the snip to see the original article that Oberliner got the snip from.

[azurnoir]

9. I saw it when it was run in LBN did you miss it then?

[King_David]

14. What's that got to do with you not knowing how the hyperlinks work ?

Huh ?

[azurnoir]

16. you did not ask fir directions nor did I need any but here for your benefit a link to the LBN thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141278614

[oberliner]

19. Thanks for sharing that thread

DUers seems to generally be able to identify Trump's comments for what they are, and condemn them accordingly.

As opposed to Mondoweiss which decided to come to his defense for some reason.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

25. And sometimes republicans tell the truth.

Trump is a loudmouth, but his comments on Israel show the dark truth of money and donors.

[oberliner]

8. Headline of article and first two paragraphs for Salon

Headline and first paragraph for Mondo.

[azurnoir]

10. Doesn't really answer why the Salon article that contained info already in the snip

[oberliner]

17. I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying

I posted the headline of a relevant article from Salon and the first two paragraphs, and then the headline of a relevant article from Mondoweiss and the first paragraph. Pointing out the contrast in responses to Trump's comments.

The Salon writer believes them to have been antisemitic and the Mondoweiss writer does not.

My own view is along the lines of what the Salon writer wrote, seeing what a nasty person Trump is, generally speaking, with regard to pretty much every other group of people.

[azurnoir]

18. yes one already in LBN

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141278614

[oberliner]

20. Yes, thank you again for sharing that

In this context, it was posted in response to the OP to show the different responses to Trump's speech from various quarters - in particular, Salon and Mondoweiss.

Thankfully, most folks on DU (as well as most other liberals and progressives writing on this topic) are criticizing Trump's remarks here.

Though some seem to want to come to his defense - possibly because he said something about Israel that they found appealing and so are desirous to excuse his other, potentially antisemitic comments.

[azurnoir]

22. so in your opinion was Trump also wrong here

The Republican front runner candidate Donald Trump , described the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia—United States's closest Arab ally— as a 'fat, and milky' cow and added there is no interest for the United States to support the despotic regime of Saudi and sooner or later should an uprising erupt, we must side with that nation's democratic ambitions.

Mr. Trump continued that he was "definitely not a big fan" of Saudi Arabia, and that America has endured too much to "support Saudi terrorists".

"Well, you know, the primary reason we're with the Saudi Arabia for the time being is because we need the oil. Now we almost don't need their oil so much, we should stop supporting Saudi dictators," AFP quoted Mr. Trump.

http://awdnews.com/top-news/donald-trump-we-should-milk-the-fat-saudi-arabia-as-much-as-possible,-and-when-the-wealthy-sheikhs-becomes-useless-we-should-abandon-the-middle-east

[King_David]

5. Mondoweiss supporting Anne Coulter and now Donald Trump

True colors ....

[FBaggins]

7. Which makes you wonder why the site is cited here so frequently

Nah... it doesn't.

[azurnoir]

11. Really any theories you wish to share?

[King_David]

13. Mondoweiss is a known hate site....

Now Mondoweiss is clearly in the Republican Party camp...

First they support Anne Coulter and now Donald Trump ...

That's not theory .... It's fact.

[azurnoir]

15. some confuse theory with fact it seems

[King_David]

21. I'm not even sure what that means....

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

29. Perhaps you can promote a theory on that...

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

23. Please stop with the untruth, david.

Only the dubious make claims that they cannot prove.

Right, dave?

[King_David]

12. The one that posts Mondoweiss all the time

I believe shares the same politics as Mondoweiss.

Even here on DU , a Democratic Party supporting website..... When clearly Mondoweiss is not only bigoted hate site but has moved firmly into the Republican Party camp....

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

24. Keep up with the OP, dave. The link is to Ynet.

[FBaggins]

26. Do try to pay attention Dan

His reply wasn't to the OP.

It isn't all about you.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

28. It is when he endlessly cries about a certain poster.

[Dems to Win]

3. Trump also called the Saudis 'fat cows' and said America shouldn't be defending them

There are tidbits of solid gold among the trash coming out of his mouth. Trump does say things that are verboten by both parties that do need to be said out loud.

[Little Tich]

27. I guess this proves that a hundred monkeys with a hundred typewriters will eventually type something

that seems to be meaningful.

But don't let that fool you - those monkeys are still writing all of Trump's scripts...