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Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:40 PM

 

Right-wing campaign portrays human rights leaders as foreign agents

http://972mag.com/right-wing-campaign-portrays-human-rights-leaders-as-foreign-agents/114805/

One minute and nine seconds. That’s the length of the inciting video published this morning by right-wing activist Ronen Shoval. In less than a minute-and-a-half, Shoval manages to sum up all the reasons why an Israeli court deemed it okay to call “Im Tirzu” — an organization he founded — a “fascist” group.

The video is part of a campaign by the group against foreign governments “planting” activists and groups belonging to Israeli civil society. It begins with a clip of a Palestinian man moving his knife toward the camera, as if he is trying to stab the viewer himself, while horror film music plays in the background. The video then goes on to accuse four Israelis who work for human rights organizations — Breaking the Silence’s Avner Gvaryahu, Hamoked’s Sigi Ben Ari, Ishai Menuchin of the Public Committee Against Torture in Israel, and B’Tselem’s Hagai El-Ad — of being “planted.”
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Things I learned from the Weimar Republic

The enemy is no longer comprised of various anti-Israel groups. The enemy now has a name, his face is out in the open; these are the people fighting against us from within. These four are now connected to the knife-wielding Palestinian. They are the knife stabbing us in the back.

After watching Shoval’s video I immediately looked up the Hebrew Wikipedia entry for what was known as the “stab-in-the-back myth.” According to the myth, Germany’s loss in World War I came as a result of treasonous activities by Jews, Marxists, freemasons, and others who stabbed the nation in the back.” I also learned that “most of the German people accepted the myth as fact, and that placing the blame on Jews and Marxists for the German defeat became commonplace. Moreover, the myth was convenient in that it served certain psychological aspects of German society, at a time when powerful forces left over from the era of German Emperor Wilhelm II still strived for territorial expansion and had militaristic ambitions. Far-right völkisch parties made use of the myth, and after the Nazis came to power in 1933, the myth won official government support and became part of Germany’s history curriculum.”


Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it. Sad that it will be Israel.

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Reply Right-wing campaign portrays human rights leaders as foreign agents (Original post)
R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 OP
oberliner Dec 2015 #1
shira Dec 2015 #3
Israeli Dec 2015 #5
R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #2
oberliner Dec 2015 #6
R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #7
oberliner Dec 2015 #15
King_David Dec 2015 #8
R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #9
shira Dec 2015 #4
R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #10
shira Dec 2015 #11
R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #12
King_David Dec 2015 #13
R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #14
Little Tich Dec 2015 #16

Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Original post)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 08:01 PM

1. What history is Israel bound to repeat?

 

And how does it follow from this article about far right-wingers?

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Response to oberliner (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:29 AM

3. Another obvious Israel = Nazi comparison. "Weimar Republic"....

 

It doesn't get more foul comparing Jews to Nazis.

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Response to shira (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:52 AM

5. Sure it does shira ....

see :
Father of Suspect in West Bank Arson Killings Calls President Rivlin 'Führer'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1134120921

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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 05:52 AM

2. Back to your patented obfuscation so soon, Ober?

 

I thought you would take a little while off from that after your last embarrassment.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=121799

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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 08:18 AM

6. Huh?

 

I was responding to the comment you made.

If you don't want people responding to your comments, why make them?

Edit to add:

Here's the comment I mean: "Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it. Sad that it will be Israel."

You included that remark after the article in your OP. Why did you write that? What does it mean?

Seems odd that you would complain about a response to a comment that you chose to include.

If you only want people to respond to the article, then don't add your commentary.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:09 PM

7. Once again, nice try.

 

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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:02 AM

15. Can you clarify what you meant by your comment?

 

Or explain what prompted you to include it?

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Response to oberliner (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 03:36 PM

8. He won't explain the comment

Right wing extremist comments are sure to be hidden - if it were explained.

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Response to King_David (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 09:58 PM

9. Projecting again, dave?

 

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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Original post)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 06:43 AM

4. Reply under original OP article at website...

 

These most certainly are proxies of foreign governments and therefore tools of neo-colonialism. There is nothing democratic about allowing white-privilege Europe to push it's foreign policy objectives in Israel, which are diametrically opposed to the objectives of the Israeli democratic majority, through the proxy agents identified by Shovel.

Are you or are you not against colonialism, Orly? If you are all for powerful and traditionally internationally oppressive countries interfering in the domestic affairs of weaker states, then just be as explicit about this as possible.

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Response to shira (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:00 PM

10. You took the words right out of Naftali Bennets mouth.

 

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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:11 PM

11. How to Identify and Defeat an Internet Troll

 

Have you ever met an internet troll? A troll is a special class of sociopath.

These nasty individuals are the sadistic ne'er-do-wells of the digital realm, the misanthropic misfits of information age. Unlike a normal person, when a troll enters an online discussion, he is not seeking truth or clarification. He usually doesn't even know how to debate in an intelligent manner. All he wants to do is inflict pain, ridicule, and humiliation on a targeted person.....

http://www.peorian.com/technology/technology-news/trolls-cyberbullies/1079-how-to-identify-and-defeat-an-internet-troll

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Response to shira (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:29 PM

12. Out of ammo, I see. Good.

 

BDS.

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Response to shira (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:33 PM

13. To half the people in this group Israel and Palestine really are foreign countries...

Even those considering themselves more Palestinian than real Palestinians , or like in the case of the ISM those that want to be the leaders of the Palestinian nation from America.

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Response to King_David (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 16, 2015, 10:43 PM

14. Really, Dave. You consider yourself more Palestinian than the Palestinians?

 

I guess that you were referring to yourself in the third person...(?) but I guess if you want to come out in support of Palestinians then who am I to argue with you?



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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Original post)

Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:43 PM

16. I would let the Nazi comparison pass this time, simply because it's apt.


I took a look at the clip, and it's totally "Der Stürmer" style. I'm very wary of Nazi comparisons in general, but I don't know of any other comparison that would work without being too convoluted.

Naming supposed traitors and blaming them for terrorism is pure incitement. The idea of the stab in the back traitor was an old Nazi meme, which surely those who made the clip are fully aware of, and it's most probably their inspiration. This is one of the most inciteful clips I've seen from the "pro-Israel" side for a long time.

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