Jews may soon be outnumbered by Palestinians in Israel

[bemildred]

Israeli policymakers are heralding the fact that the country’s Jewish population has passed the 6 million mark for the first time — a historically significant number, they say, because that’s the number of Jews who were killed in the Holocaust.

“It’s a great joy to know there are more than 6 million Jews in Israel,” Dina Porat, chief historian of Yad Vashem, Israel’s Holocaust museum, told the Guardian.

It’s cause for celebration, but the 6 million figure doesn’t entirely put Israeli Jews at ease.

The Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics released its own figures this week, predicting that the number of Arabs in Israel and Palestine will equal the number of Jews by 2016 and exceed it by 2020, buoyed in part by the Palestinians’ overall higher birthrate.

http://www.dailytribune.com/article/20130102/NEWS/130109922/jews-may-soon-be-outnumbered-by-palestinians-in-israel

[dipsydoodle]

1. I don't see their reasoning

One minute they're quoting Israel and the next Israel and Palestine combined.

[bemildred]

5. Dissembling a bit, yes, all of them. nt

[oberliner]

2. The headline is a lie

Unless you consider the West Bank and Gaza to be part of Israel, which I don't think you do.

There are less than 2 million Palestinians living in Israel - which is not even 1/3rd of the Jewish population.

[dipsydoodle]

3. You are correct in your assumption

No I don't consider the West Bank and Gaza to be part of Israel.

I was simply drawing attention to this being a "bullshit baffles brains" article.

[bemildred]

4. Well, let's say this issue is in dispute and their usages not well-defined.

I don't believe any of them, but I hadn't seen anything on the demographic issue lately so I put it up.

[Solindsey]

6. It's not a lie if you didn't completely miss the point of the article.

Which you obviously have. No surprise.

The growing Palestinian population in the combined Israeli and Palestinian Terroritories make a one state solution more palpable to Palestinians and less so for Israelis.

This point was mentioned here http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/02/israels-jews-6-million-palestinians-outnumber_n_2394636.html

And this population imbalance doesn't even factor in the possibility of Palestinians getting the Right of Return, in some form or another.

[holdencaufield]

7. Given that ...

... a one-state solution has NEVER been palatable to anyone but a tiny minority of Israelis -- a Palestinian population of 50 million wouldn't make much difference in that.

[Solindsey]

8. The article I linked already said that.

That doesn't take away from the point being made by the demos in the article, which a couple of people here found some difficulty in understanding. From the Palestinians point of view, a one state solution would be more palpable due to their growing population. Whether or not it is achievable is besides the point.

[oberliner]

9. No surprise?

Why is it no surprise that I completely missed the point of the article?

[Solindsey]

11. You called it a Lie. Excessive rush to discredit, wouldn't you say?

In a previous thread, very recently, you found more reason to complain about a month old article being a month old than the words of Sharon's scumbag son. Speaking about committing nuclear genocide on Gaza doesn't get a blink from you? Not a single peep. But dare some fool come along threatening the same annihilation against Israel and out pours the zealous outrage from people like you on that side of the fence. So when this thread came along and there goes your knee jerk reaction to discredit a legitimate point... I wasn't surprised.

[azurnoir]

10. first it's a time bomb then it's not then it is again

actually the strib ran something on this

Palestinian statistical bureau says Palestinians will outnumber Israeli Jews by 2020

JERUSALEM - The Palestinian statistics bureau estimates that Arabs will outnumber Jews in the Holy Land by the end of the decade, a scenario that could have grave implications for Israel.

The bureau said Tuesday that 5.8 million Arabs live in Israel, the West Bank, Gaza and east Jerusalem. That compares to about 6 million Israeli Jews, according to Israeli data.

It said that based on current birth rates, the two populations would be equal in 2016, and in 2020, Arabs would outnumber Jews by 7.2 million to 6.9 million.

http://www.startribune.com/world/185365722.html?refer=y

sounds like a lead is being followed or something