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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 01:17 PM Mar 2013

Israel's segregated bus lines have touched a nerve

http://www.middleeastmonitor.com/articles/middle-east/5401-israels-segregated-bus-lines-have-touched-a-nerve

The two new bus lines were launched on Monday, to be used by Palestinian labourers travelling between the West Bank and Israel. They were introduced in response to complaints by Jewish settlers that Palestinians on mixed buses were posing a security risk. The Ministry of Transport has attempted to downplay the move, saying that the new buses will "improve public transport services for Palestinian workers entering Israel" and replace pirate buses charging them "exorbitant prices". It added that it would not be stopping Palestinians from taking the existing bus services: "The Ministry of Transport is not authorised to prevent any passenger from using public transport services." The fact that Palestinians are not explicitly forbidden from riding regular services means that this just about stops short of legal apartheid. However, the official line is not always the same as the reality on the ground, and rights groups have expressed concern that Israeli police at West Bank checkpoints will force Palestinian passengers to use the new buses. Before the Palestinian-only buses were introduced, there were reports of police removing Palestinians from busy buses to make way for settlers, leaving them to walk two miles to a different crossing point. It is worth remembering that in Alabama, when Parks took her stand against segregation, bus drivers weren't legally allowed to order black passengers to stand so that whites could sit down - but they frequently did it anyway.
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Israel's segregated bus lines have touched a nerve (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2013 OP
Basically everything in this piece is incorrect oberliner Mar 2013 #1
list exactly what is incorrect as you seem to make these types of charges frequently azurnoir Mar 2013 #3
List exactly what Israel is currently doing WRT buses that is segregation. shira Mar 2013 #6
got nothing eh? azurnoir Mar 2013 #7
Here's what was bolded from the OP... shira Mar 2013 #8
Appears you'll not be receiving a response. Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #9
No I guess some are too busy azurnoir Mar 2013 #10
Maybe they'll come back and answer..I'm waiting for one too in Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #11
Allow me to pick up their slack. Scootaloo Mar 2013 #12
uh well uh ya got me ya really really did can't say anything to that except azurnoir Mar 2013 #13
yes it does seem that way doesn't it azurnoir Mar 2013 #2
Well them uppity Palestinians R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2013 #4
who is gonna say apartheid? pansypoo53219 Mar 2013 #5
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
1. Basically everything in this piece is incorrect
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 01:50 PM
Mar 2013

I guess when you rely on internet stories you can pretty much put together whatever narrative you'd like.

I miss the days when reporters actually reported on things.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
3. list exactly what is incorrect as you seem to make these types of charges frequently
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 01:53 PM
Mar 2013

yet never seem to back them up with anything like facts and examples

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
6. List exactly what Israel is currently doing WRT buses that is segregation.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:27 PM
Mar 2013

Not what it "might" do.

That's what the OP is doing....guessing that Israel might do this and that.

Lame.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
7. got nothing eh?
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:29 PM
Mar 2013

thought I'd do that for once but thanks apparently the one who made the comment is unable to reply

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
8. Here's what was bolded from the OP...
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:31 PM
Mar 2013
The fact that Palestinians are not explicitly forbidden from riding regular services means that this just about stops short of legal apartheid. However, the official line is not always the same as the reality on the ground, and rights groups have expressed concern that Israeli police at West Bank checkpoints will force Palestinian passengers to use the new buses. Before the Palestinian-only buses were introduced, there were reports of police removing Palestinians from busy buses to make way for settlers, leaving them to walk two miles to a different crossing point. It is worth remembering that in Alabama, when Parks took her stand against segregation, bus drivers weren't legally allowed to order black passengers to stand so that whites could sit down - but they frequently did it anyway.


There's nothing there proving anything remotely close to apartheid, SbE, or segregation.

Got anything else?
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
12. Allow me to pick up their slack.
Fri Mar 8, 2013, 03:15 AM
Mar 2013

Ahem.

WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO SUPPORT A FLOTILLA TO BOLIVIA, AZURNOIR?! DO YOU SUPPORT GRETA BERLIN? WHY NOT, BECAUSE YOU HATE WOMEN? BARACK OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUPPORT WOMEN AND BOLIVIA, WHY CAN'T YOU?! IT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT ISRAEL SO YOU DON'T CARE.

did i miss any... Oh!

WHY DO YOU KEEP READING 972MAG? DON'T YOU KNOW SOMEONE THERE POSTS ON MONDOWEISS AND SOMEONE ON MONDOWEISS SUPPORTS A SINGLE STATE SO THEY WANT TO ERADICATE JEWS, JUST LIKE IRAN, WHY DO YOU LOVE AHMEDINEJAD AND HAMAS, AZURNOIR?!?

There, I think that should hold ya.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
2. yes it does seem that way doesn't it
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 01:51 PM
Mar 2013

and this thread while you being told on one hand that Palestinian simply luv these buses and that it's really only anti-Israel (Westerners) that are protesting them note the title of the thread

A Palestinian Insult to Rosa Parks


http://www.democraticunderground.com/113434330

just can't resist I suppose
 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
4. Well them uppity Palestinians
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 02:59 PM
Mar 2013

really need to learn their place and be thankful to their Israeli overlords.

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