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Related: About this forumKhamenei: Iran will help anyone confront Israel
Source: Associated Press
Supreme leader affirms Iran has helped militant groups attack Israel before and will continue nuclear programme
Associated Press
guardian.co.uk, Friday 3 February 2012 17.59 GMT
Iran will help any nation or group that confronts the "cancer" Israel, the Islamic republic's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has said.
In remarks delivered to worshippers at Friday prayers in Tehran and broadcast on state TV, he said the country would continue its controversial nuclear programme, and warned that any military strike by the US would only make Iran stronger.
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Khamenei affirmed that Iran had assisted militant groups like the Lebanese Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas a well-known policy, but one that Iranian leaders rarely acknowledge explicitly.
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"From now on, in any place, if any nation or any group confronts the Zionist regime, we will endorse and we will help. We have no fear expressing this," said Khamenei.
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Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/03/khamenei-iran-help-confront-israel
King_David
(14,851 posts)I am sure he just wants peace with Israel and the Nuclear program is for " energy"purposes".
And Israel has nothing to worry about a nuclear armed Iran because these arms will never fall into terrorists such as Hamas' or Hezbollah's hands ...
Yep Yep
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Haggai Ram ( Haggai Ram is a Senior Lecturer in the Department of Middle East Studies at Ben Gurion University of the Negev, Israel. His publications include Reading Iran in Israel (2006, published in Hebrew) and Myth and Mobilization in Revolutionary Iran (1994).
http://www.sup.org/pages.cgi?isbn=0804760683;item=Excerpt_from_Introduction_pages;page=2
Ram: "Israel and the Iranian Threat"
Posted on 09/29/2009 by Juan
Haggai Ram writes in a guest editorial for IC:
Before, during and after the recent UN General Assembly meeting, the Israeli government, much like Sisyphus, who was condemned to repeat forever a meaningless task, once again stepped up its campaign against Irans nuclear program. The immediate objective is patently clear: to push the United Nations Security Council to expand sanctions against Iran and perhaps also to lay down the justification for a future Israeli preemptive strike against Irans nuclear facilities.
The tactic used is not new either. It consists of a well known, well orchestrated endeavor to conjure up a radioactively reified picture of Iran as a Nazi Germany-like power obsessively bent on making good on its alleged pledge to have the Jewish state wiped off the map. Thus, on a recent trip to Russia Israeli President Shimon Peres described the prospects of an Iranian nuclear bomb in ominous terms as a flying concentration camp; and Netanyahu, while on a trip to Germany, warned Iran that Israel will not allow those who wish to perpetrate mass deaths, those who call for the destruction of the Jewish people or the Jewish state, to go unchallenged.
In assessing the Jewish states unrelenting recourse to drawing analogies between Iran and Nazi Germany, one should not dismiss the genuine feelings of vulnerability among Israelis stemming from the trauma of the Jewish Holocaust during World War II. This explains, in part, why despite Israel
http://www.juancole.com/2009/09/ram-israel-and-iranian-threat.html
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Is that why you posted this old analysis? To show how wrong Juan Cole (unsurprisingly) turned out to be?
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)posted by Juan Cole..Ram was his guest.
I don't see anything in the thread opening OP by the Associated Press that suggests Haggai is
is incorrect.
On edit to correct name
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Maybe you didn't read it?
The piece you posted, which forms the basis of Juan's theory about Iran vis-a-vis Israel was blown away by the comments in the OP.
I thought that might have been why you included your post.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)it, Ram did...you're lost. I had already told you the opening thread OP is from the
AP. That you imagine his work is undercut by the AP piece is your
opinion, I'll go with the Ram's.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Iran Can Now Make glowing Mickey Mouse Watches
Despite all the sloppy and inaccurate headlines about Iran going nuclear, the fact is that all President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Tuesday was that it had enriched uranium to a measely 3.5 percent, using a bank of 180 centrifuges hooked up so that they cascade.
The ability to slightly enrich uranium is not the same as the ability to build a bomb. For the latter, you need at least 80% enrichment, which in turn would require about 16,000 small centrifuges hooked up to cascade. Iran does not have 16,000 centrifuges. It seems to have 180. Iran is a good ten years away from having a bomb, and since its leaders, including Supreme Jurisprudent Ali Khamenei, say they do not want an atomic bomb because it is Islamically immoral, you have to wonder if they will ever have a bomb.
http://www.juancole.com/2006/04/iran-can-now-make-glowing-mickey-mouse.html
He's been on this "don't worry about Iran" kick for a long time.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)to refer to it as though Juan Cole wrote it....you were mistaken.
The OP belongs to Haggai Ram, as Cole's guest..that you don't accept
either work is of no concern to me.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It's the place where he gathers articles and op-eds that he agrees with.
The ones that form the basis for his ideas and theories about various political goings on and whatnot.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)something you did not recognize. The focus was Ram's work, in two links..you missed
that, completely.