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....Perhaps most interestingly, he displays a highly empathetic, even forgiving, attitude to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who as opposition leader relentlessly critiqued Rabin for rehabilitating Arafat, helping to create a domestic climate of bitter hostility to Rabin. Netanyahu opposed Rabin when he didnt know anything, says Haber.
And what is it that the Likud leader didnt know 20 years ago, that he does know as prime minister today? That only when you make it to the Prime Ministers Office, says Haber, do you understand the extent to which Israel is dependent on America. For absolutely everything in the realms of diplomacy, security, even economically
Slowly your tone changes, because you understand that without the spare parts [from the US], your entire air force is grounded. And when you have no air force you have no defenses. You can barely do anything without America. Her diplomatic support, defensive support, economic support. We are in Americas little pocket.
Haber, who first met Rabin when working as a journalist in the IDF, is a regular columnist at Yedioth Ahronoth, with a variety of other business interests. His features have not changed much over the past 20 years or more pertinently the past 18, since that terrible night, November 4, 1995, when he emerged from Ichilov Hospital to tell Israel and the world, The government of Israel announces in dismay, in great sadness, and in deep sorrow, the death of prime minister and minister of defense Yitzhak Rabin, who was murdered by an assassin, tonight in Tel Aviv.
The following are excerpts of our interview, conducted in Ramat Gan ahead of the Oslo anniversary:
The Times of Israel: Twenty years after the handshake, tell me, when you look back at the historical process did we destroy it, did they?
Eitan Haber: First of all, I was the only one in the prime ministers bureau who objected to the idea for one very simple reason: I didnt believe that with one signature, with one ceremony, it would be possible to overcome more than 100 years of terror and spilled blood. You need years, even decades, of education. In spite of that, I think this event, the Oslo Accords, was possibly the most important turning point and milestone in the history of the State of Israel since the founding of the state, for one simple reason. It removed the masks from all of our faces Israelis and Palestinians alike.
more @ http://www.timesofisrael.com/when-they-become-pm-they-realize-how-utterly-dependent-israel-is-on-the-us/
inch4progress
(270 posts)The Palestinians and Israelis are paying the price today!
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/oct/30/yitzhak-rabin-israel-far-right
King_David
(14,851 posts)" Whoever killed Rabin didn't want a two-state solution"
Stating the obvious .
Israeli
(4,139 posts)yes we are .
I was there that night with all of my family , we arrived in convoys of buses from the kibbutzim in our area , young and old .... so full of hope .
Shattered dreams .
Eitan Haber wants to forgive Bibi .... that is his prerogative .
Rabin's wife never did .... and neither will I .
You want to learn more inch4progress ..... I suggest this for further reading :
MURDER IN THE NAME OF GOD
The Plot to Kill Yitzhak Rabin
@ http://www.michaelkarpin.com/Books/Book2/Michael_Karpin_Book2.html
delrem
(9,688 posts)inch4progress
(270 posts)I think they have mistaken "radicalism" with progress. Rabin might have brought peace and the fat right doesn't want peace. They want an authoritarian religious state where everyone thinks and acts the same. I guess that's progress in the minds of the authoritarian radicals. SADLY.
Israeli
(4,139 posts).....or those that prefer the term Jews over that of Israelis .
See :
Rabins Assassination Marked
The End of an Era
Consensus has it that [assassin Yigal] Amir also shot the unity of the nation, both the authentic and the artificial one. It was with an eye toward that nation that the tribes once attempted to unite, around the bonfire of patriotism, despite disagreements over who was closer to the fire and who was at its edge. But after those three shots, people no longer wanted any longer to embrace those who didnt think like them or hold their opinions. The masks came off. It is therefore possible to honestly claim that Yigal Amir murdered Israeliness. Today, Israelis still most certainly exist its even quite hard to miss them but Israeliness is no longer. Not its old, beautiful form.
The facts are that the disconnect today from the Palestinians is total; the focus on an agreement of some sort has ended; the settlements are being fed by budgets; the [West Bank] outpost youth dont fear anyone; patriotism has turned into nationalism manifested in ugly law proposals and racism (against Jews and gentiles alike); moral corruption is spreading throughout the entire nation; violence is flourishing, as is poverty and ignorance; the [rule of] law has disappeared and is no more. And if you think there is no connection between our miserable existential situation and the Rabin assassination, think again the smoking gun of the general decline is Yigal Amirs gun.
Imagine a secular Israel, enlightened and prosperous, advanced and united, that frequently gives its citizens reasons to be proud, and lives in peace with itself and with its neighbors. All this, Yigal Amir stole from you. And what you see outside the crudeness, the racism, the aggressiveness, the violence, what people get away with from government ranks and downward all that is what he left for you. That is the legacy of the smiling murderer: the death of Israeliness.
Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/culture/2012/11/the-death-of-israeliness.html#ixzz2gLojSiM2