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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 11:10 AM Dec 2013

Oren calls on US Congress to quell movement to boycott Israel academically

Former Israeli ambassador to US says in Politico op-ed that more organizations could boycott Israeli academia if action not taken.


The US Congress should act to quell the movement to boycott Israel academically, former Israeli ambassador to Washington Michael Oren argued Friday, in the wake of the American Studies Association's (ASA) decision to boycott Israeli academic institutions.

The 5,000-member association, which describes itself as “the nation’s oldest and largest association devoted to the interdisciplinary study of American culture and history,” announced on Monday that it had endorsed and would participate in a boycott of Israeli universities and academic institutions. Another small North American academic association – the Native American and Indigenous Studies Association - followed suit two days later, declaring a boycott of its own against Israeli academic institutions.

Officials in Jerusalem have downplayed the significance of the boycott, which has been widely condemned by Jewish groups. Oren, however, writing in an opinion article published in Politico, argues that unless the boycott is fought back against, more organizations could follow suit.

Oren, who finished his 50-month tenure as Israeli envoy to the US in September, said that Congress should pass laws which would quash the boycott, as it did in 1977 in response to the Arab economic boycott of Israel.

http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Oren-calls-on-US-Congress-to-quell-movement-to-boycott-Israel-academically-335715

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Oren calls on US Congress to quell movement to boycott Israel academically (Original Post) Jefferson23 Dec 2013 OP
Fascist demands abridgement of first amendment to protect racial supremacist philosophy Scootaloo Dec 2013 #1
It's all about allowing for a future Palestinian state...cough. Don't anyone interfere in the peace Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #2
Well as our mutual friend, DU Poster, and self-identified "Liberal Zionist" Shira has shown us... Scootaloo Dec 2013 #3
The generosity warms the heart. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #4
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #8
So you're anti-Israel, then? Scootaloo Dec 2013 #9
i'm anti fascism.... pelsar Dec 2013 #10
You don't say? Scootaloo Dec 2013 #11
then clarify it... pelsar Dec 2013 #12
I'm honestly just perplexed that you don't notice how far past the cliff you've gone Scootaloo Dec 2013 #13
u shouldn't be... pelsar Dec 2013 #14
I have to spell it out, don't I? Okay, from the top... Scootaloo Dec 2013 #15
If yr not in favor of setting up a racist fascist totalitarian theocratic Arab majority state.... shira Dec 2013 #18
Angel Face ;) Israeli Dec 2013 #16
There was a line in Hamlet that fits azurnoir Dec 2013 #5
Not to mention a foreign nation interfering with Congress. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #6
In this case that will almost certainly be overlooked azurnoir Dec 2013 #7
our Republican controlled House would show more support for Duck Dynasty R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #17
This ommission is good news for the boycott movement Larkspur Dec 2013 #19
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
1. Fascist demands abridgement of first amendment to protect racial supremacist philosophy
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 02:32 PM
Dec 2013

Yet another non-surprise from the halls of liberal Zionism I suppose.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
2. It's all about allowing for a future Palestinian state...cough. Don't anyone interfere in the peace
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 06:51 PM
Dec 2013

process....cough.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
3. Well as our mutual friend, DU Poster, and self-identified "Liberal Zionist" Shira has shown us...
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 07:18 PM
Dec 2013

The "Future Palestinian State" envisioned by Liberal Zionists... is Jordan.

You know. Just like non-liberal Zionists.

Response to Scootaloo (Reply #3)

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
9. So you're anti-Israel, then?
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 03:13 AM
Dec 2013

Careful, we have posters here who will revoke your Jewishness if they found out

Also, it's "you." Three letters. One consonant, followed by two vowels, only one of which is 'u'. If you're doing this via phone, remember what Gin Rummy has to say;

Shit, I don't know 'bout you but I don't have time to read nothin' that a motherfucker typed with his thumbs. Fun fact; nothing typed by someone's thumbs has ever been important.

pelsar

(12,283 posts)
10. i'm anti fascism....
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 03:18 AM
Dec 2013

i have no problem with social groups, groups based on skin color, height, or funny noses or even countries that have a national culture based on history/race/genes etc....

i do have a problem with anyone who supports the creation of a new society/country that is not based on western civil rights for its citizens as its very foundation.

..and if that new facist country is based on race for its govt, than its cheerleaders are not just pro facist but racist as well.

pelsar

(12,283 posts)
12. then clarify it...
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 03:23 AM
Dec 2013

because clearly i didn't understand it..

and of course you can explain how your cheerleading for an anti democratic state based on the genes of some of its citizens.and how u defend the racism ..that should be fun

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
13. I'm honestly just perplexed that you don't notice how far past the cliff you've gone
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 03:30 AM
Dec 2013


Just out of curiosity. What anti-democratic state am I supposedly cheerleading for?

pelsar

(12,283 posts)
14. u shouldn't be...
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 04:35 AM
Dec 2013

i honestly done see how anyone who claims to be be pro human rights, anti racsim can cheerlead for the new Palestenain state..cant see what kind of state the Palestenians will have...once there is no occupation, and then claim its none of anybodies business what kind of state they make or how bad they treat their own and also claim its none of israels business if this new state fails....as if it wont affect israel directly

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
15. I have to spell it out, don't I? Okay, from the top...
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 05:06 AM
Dec 2013
unlike apparently others here...i don't believe in supporting the creation of a non democratic country simply because the people have specific genes..

whats commonly known as racism....as apparently u do


I asked if this meant you are anti-Israel... because Israel very certainly was a country created in about the most non-democratic way imaginable, on the basis that one ethnic group is superior to another, a notion that persists to the present day as you and your fellow posters constantly demonstrate.

(u probably supported khommeni as he hung the nice liberals and homosexuals, because he had the "right genes)


I hadn't noticed that you decided it would be a good idea to do an edit to add a line like this. Wow. Just... wow. I'm not sure what's more bewildering, that you're accusing me of this, or that you think Khomeini was a Palestinian.

i'm anti fascism....


This is known as "a lie."

i have no problem with social groups, groups based on skin color, height, or funny noses or even countries that have a national culture based on history/race/genes etc....


What exactly do you define as a "funny" nose? And how does one have a culture based on genes? You silly thing, you are 70% identical to a fucking CUCUMBER at the genetic level, and you want to tell me cultures are based on genes? It's bad enough that you want to badly to engage me on the topic this forum is dedicated to, don't you dare think you can start talking biology as if it backs your kookery up.

i do have a problem with anyone who supports the creation of a new society/country that is not based on western civil rights for its citizens as its very foundation.

..and if that new facist country is based on race for its govt, than its cheerleaders are not just pro facist but racist as well.


And I asked you again, if this meant you were anti-Israel. I don't really know if I can make it any less subtle for you, honestly. I think that "are you anti-Israel" is about rock bottom on the subtlety meter. Should I fire up MS Paint, would a pictoral guide to the question help you?

then clarify it... because clearly i didn't understand it..


Clarify? Okay. i'm mocking you for being a two-faced hypocritical sack of garbage. Also, because I think you're fucking sloshed.

and of course you can explain how your cheerleading for an anti democratic state based on the genes of some of its citizens.and how u defend the racism ..that should be fun


Once again, I think you have me confused for a supporter of Israel. While that's something of a unique experience for me, i have to inform you that I believe you're mistaken.

i honestly done see how anyone who claims to be be pro human rights, anti racsim..cant see what kind of state the Palestenians will have...once there is no occupation


But I suppose invoking human rights and anti-racism as an argument to preserve and even expand that occupation makes perfect sense to you?

and claim its none of anybodies business what kind of state they make


Is it opposites day?
 

shira

(30,109 posts)
18. If yr not in favor of setting up a racist fascist totalitarian theocratic Arab majority state....
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 04:57 PM
Dec 2013

Last edited Mon Dec 23, 2013, 08:20 PM - Edit history (2)

...in place of Israel, then what are you advocating instead?

Be clear.

And if it's this 1-state nonsense, what's the timeline on when everyone will be on board with this secular democratic utopia? Decades? Centuries?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. There was a line in Hamlet that fits
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 07:32 PM
Dec 2013
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks


really though this campaign against the boycott could well backfire and backfire big time- law suits, intimidation, smear campaigns, and a call for Congressional action all could be seen as an attempt to muzzle protest against Israel not to mention free speech and freedom of who one chooses to associate with or not

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
7. In this case that will almost certainly be overlooked
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 02:48 AM
Dec 2013

remember our Republican controlled Congress showed more support for Netanyahu than it did Obama

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
17. our Republican controlled House would show more support for Duck Dynasty
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 11:08 AM
Dec 2013

than it has for Obama.

I just thought that I would bring up how our esteemed republicans love to fellate Israel for their own ends: their end time constituents...oh and of course money.




Happy holidays.
 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
19. This ommission is good news for the boycott movement
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 12:55 PM
Dec 2013

It shows that it is starting to make its point to the pro-apartheid Israelis and their allies.
It still has a ways to go, but as Gandhi said, "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
Well, looks like the boycott is entering Gandhi's third stage of non-violent resistance to injustice.

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