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King_David

(14,851 posts)
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 08:40 PM Dec 2013

Boycott of Israeli universities: A repugnant attack on academic freedom

By Michael S. Roth
December 19, 2013, 6:55 p.m.
The American Studies Assn. recently passed a resolution that "endorses and … honor[s] the call of Palestinian civil society for a boycott of Israeli academic institutions." The action was taken, the group explained, because "there is no effective or substantive academic freedom for Palestinian students and scholars under conditions of Israeli occupation," and because "Israeli institutions of higher learning are a party to Israeli state policies that violate human rights and negatively impact the working conditions of Palestinian scholars and students."
But the boycott is a repugnant attack on academic freedom, declaring academic institutions off-limits because of their national affiliation.
The ASA has not gone on record against universities in any other country: not against those that enforce laws against homosexuality, not against those that have rejected freedom of speech, not against those that systematically restrict access to higher education by race, religion or gender. No, the ASA listens to civil society only when it speaks against Israel. As its scholarly president declared, "One has to start somewhere." Not in North Korea, not in Russia or Zimbabwe or China — one has to start with Israel. Really?
The 820-plus ASA members who voted for the resolution are sanctioning universities and their faculties because of their government's policies. Many Israeli professors, like many other citizens, oppose the policies of the current government. But these schools have now run afoul of the ASA and are subject to boycott.


http://www.latimes.com/opinion/commentary/la-oe-roth-academic-boycott-israel-20131219,0,187403.story#ixzz2o9y6ILdJ

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Boycott of Israeli universities: A repugnant attack on academic freedom (Original Post) King_David Dec 2013 OP
This line gets a chuckle out of me... Scootaloo Dec 2013 #1
So what efforts has he utilized to end the occupation? Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #2
Wait, he called himself a Jew, and David's not outraged and denouncing the author as a "poser"? Scootaloo Dec 2013 #3
hee hee..let's wait, the surgeon will be along now, any minute, to explain. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #4
. King_David Dec 2013 #6
I'm fascinated that KFC is in times new roman and the rest is arial bold Scootaloo Dec 2013 #7
A bit of clarity about the photo shopped pic he posted. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #11
So what you're saying is that it's bullshit. Scootaloo Dec 2013 #18
Oh it's bullshit alright..and check out post#9. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #20
So, "Being strong" = "Looking like a usenet version of DrudgeReport"? Scootaloo Dec 2013 #22
I would say if you read a bit of it..this is support for settlers expansion of land, blatanly so. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #23
The photo location identifies jewnews.com as your point of origin. Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #9
TLDR King_David Dec 2013 #12
What does TLDR stand for? Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #13
Too long didn't read King_David Dec 2013 #14
Sure thing, ok. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #15
snip* Daring to Speak: Beyond Intimidation Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author delrem Dec 2013 #8
You're welcome, Alamuti Lotus, a DU member, is where I first learned of jadaliyya. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #10
what effects, in practice, does the boycott have on the Palestinian case of Palestinians ? oberliner Dec 2013 #16
You really need to ask this question? Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #17
Surely by now you're recognized oberliner's habit of "playing dumb" n/t Scootaloo Dec 2013 #19
It's his MO, the hope is you will reveal something that you did not intend..or some other Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #21
It was a question from the OP oberliner Dec 2013 #24
Of which you're more than capable of discerning the answer for yourself. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #26
Everyone has their POV oberliner Dec 2013 #27
the boycott is a hypocritical at best... pelsar Dec 2013 #25
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
1. This line gets a chuckle out of me...
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 08:56 PM
Dec 2013
As its scholarly president declared, "One has to start somewhere." Not in North Korea, not in Russia or Zimbabwe or China — one has to start with Israel. Really?


There are so many academic connections between US universities, and the universities of North Korea and Zimbabwe, aren't there? I can't name any, but that's surely because there are just too many to name!

Once again, it's just a laundry list of "other people who do bad things," divorced from the actual context of the issue.

Also, just me or has your avatar changed four times in as many hours?

Edit: Five! it's like watching a very slow-motion slot machine.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
2. So what efforts has he utilized to end the occupation?
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 08:57 PM
Dec 2013

* As a citizen of the United States, I have supported efforts to develop new approaches to achieving peace in the Middle East. As a Jew, I have argued against the policies of the current Israeli government, many of which I find abhorrent. ( end)





 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
3. Wait, he called himself a Jew, and David's not outraged and denouncing the author as a "poser"?
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 08:59 PM
Dec 2013

I guess it really is dependent on whether or not you're saying something David likes to hear, huh?

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
7. I'm fascinated that KFC is in times new roman and the rest is arial bold
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 10:06 PM
Dec 2013

But I'm not seeing the connection between this and your earlier argument to strip a man's Jewish identity on the basis that you disagreed with him. Unless you're posting this image in some sort of statement of clueless knucklehead solidarity.

By the by? nobody should buy KFC. Shit's nasty - these guys should have used comic sans to convey that.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
18. So what you're saying is that it's bullshit.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 02:43 PM
Dec 2013

I think Delrem is right, DU hasbara is dying of self-inflicted wounds.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
20. Oh it's bullshit alright..and check out post#9.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 02:49 PM
Dec 2013

The website he took it from is interesting too...all about being "strong".

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
23. I would say if you read a bit of it..this is support for settlers expansion of land, blatanly so.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 03:01 PM
Dec 2013

That's my take on the OP's I read there...I don't see how else one could interpret it.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
9. The photo location identifies jewnews.com as your point of origin.
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 09:38 AM
Dec 2013

Interesting reading material, mr. surgeon, the articles one can find there:


ISRAEL NEWS

Report: Palestinian Group Responsible For Lockerbie Bombing
Christian Group Plans 100-Foot-Tall jesus Statue In Muslim-Dominated Nazareth
Arab League Nixes American Proposal To Let IDF Stay In West Bank In Peace Deal
Former Palestinian PM Caught Speeding Near Jerusalem
U.S., Britain Spied On Olmert And Netanyahu
Kerry To Force Security Plan On Netanyahu
Reagan: Palestinians Do Not Want Peace - They Want Israel



In special interview with Arutz Sheva, son of former US President Ronald Reagan discusses the importance of Israel’s security.

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2013/12/21/reagan-palestinians-do-not-want-peace-they-want-israel/


Among others at your trusted source:

What Is ‘Palestine’ And Who Are ‘Palestinians’

Posted on 12/22/2013 by admin

The gentleman, and I use the term loosely here, who's opinions are relied upon is Francisco Gil-White.

Political activism

Gil-White was fired from the University of Pennsylvania.[6] Gil-White claims that this was a politically motivated dismissal, a consequence of his investigative journalism, such as his refutation of the conventional version of the 1990s civil wars in Yugoslavia[7] and his claim that the Palestine Liberation Organisation traces its roots to Adolf Hitler's World War II Final Solution.[8] Gil-White has made public documents relevant to his dispute with the University of Pennsylvania,.[9][10] As a consequence of the protest registered by UPenn students in the context of his dismissal, on February 17, 2005, Gil-White appeared on Hannity and Colmes (Fox News Channel) in a segment on "how far academic freedom should go."

Gil-White was assistant editor at the online magazine Emperor's Clothes[11] from 2002 to 2005, and now runs his Foundation for the Analysis of Conflict, Ethnic and Social (FACES), which supports his website, Historical and Investigative Research, which publishes his political writings.

Francisco Gil-White teamed up with Israeli citizen Chaim Wolfowicz to create StrongIsrael.org in order to protest what they consider a repetition of the WWII appeasement of the German Nazis in the Oslo Process. The website gathers signatures from Israel and from all over the world in opposition to any more territorial concessions by the Israeli government to PLO/Fatah. Francisco Gil-White was interviewed by Israel National Radio on Sunday, October 27, 2007, about the StrongIsrael effort.[12]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Gil-White

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
5. snip* Daring to Speak: Beyond Intimidation
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 09:36 PM
Dec 2013

The staunchest opponents have used silencing tactics rather than debate to challenge BDS efforts. These tactics are often heavy-handed and include threats of legal action, cessation of donor funding, and even the intervention of the political establishment. None of these tactics demonstrate or represent popular opposition to BDS.

In January 2013, Harvard Professor Alan Dershowitz spearheaded a campaign to force Brooklyn College to cancel a talk about BDS. Then, BDS opponents rallied several New York politicians to openly threaten rescinding funding for the public school if it proceeded with the lecture. The threats backfired as faculty members, Brooklyn College’s president, as well as Mayor Michael Bloomberg defended the sanctity of academic freedom. In response to their divestment efforts, Berkeley students endured and withstood a Department of Justice Title VI investigation alleging that they created a hostile climate on campus for Jewish students. An Olympia, Washington, co-op successfully defended itself against a lawsuit that sought to block enforcement of a boycott of Israeli goods and to collect monetary damages from the co-op board for breaching its fiduciary duties.

The opposition to the ASA resolution has been no different. Dershowitz penned an open letter threatening ASA members, "For those of you for whom shame is not enough, please understand that a vote for a boycott will expose you and your association both for legal and academic consequences."

This threat was not lost on the ASA’s membership that gathered on 23 November 2013 to discuss the resolution at an open forum. Of the forty-four speakers randomly selected to speak for two minutes each, thirty-seven began their comments by affirming their support for the resolution. Several of them recounted how they endured violations of their own academic freedom to critique Israel. One speaker, a former student of the late Professor Edward W. Said, recalled how his office was firebombed in an effort to intimidate and silence him. Another recalled the politicized tenure battles waged against Professors Joseph Massad, Nadia Abu al Haj, and Norman Finkelstein, who contravened the unspoken truism among scholars that you do not speak about Palestine until you have secured the safeguards of tenure. Every academic and student who spoke, knew that by supporting the resolution for academic boycott of Israel, they were placing themselves in the line of fire. This knowledge among ASA’s membership, coupled with the fact that an overwhelming majority among it was ready to speak anyway, contributed to a sense of victory for the boycott effort regardless of the official vote by the Executive Committee. According to Professor Nadine Naber, associate professor of Gender and Women’s Studies and Asian American Studies at the University of Illinois - Chicago,

Because the open discussion about Palestinian human rights that happened [at the ASA meeting] rarely happens in the US, people called the meeting historic…This is just one way the resolution creates new openings for academic freedom and the perspectives that dominant US and Israeli discourses systematically ignore, crush, and silence.

Significantly, no one took to the microphone to defend Israel’s practices (although one speaker did explain how he has “a Palestinian friend” who thinks the biggest problem facing Palestinians is Palestinian corruption and violence). Opponents of the boycott resolution argued that the resolution should go to a membership-wide referendum (the petition in support of the resolution garnered 1,008 signatures and the one against approximately 400). They argued that they were blindsided by the proposal (it was proposed and made public a year ago). They also argued that Israel is not unique for its violations (i.e., China and the US have an equal, if not worse, track record). All seven naysayers objected to the resolution on procedural grounds rather than challenging the substance of Israel’s violations.

Turning Corners: Mainstreaming Scrutiny of Israel

http://www.jadaliyya.com/pages/index/15346/toward-an-ethic-of-legitimate-dissent_academic-boy

Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #5)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
16. what effects, in practice, does the boycott have on the Palestinian case of Palestinians ?
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 11:31 AM
Dec 2013

How does it actually make a difference?

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
17. You really need to ask this question?
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 11:37 AM
Dec 2013

I find the question disingenuous...you have been posting on this subject for years, oberliner.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
21. It's his MO, the hope is you will reveal something that you did not intend..or some other
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 02:54 PM
Dec 2013

such pointless objective..yes.

pelsar

(12,283 posts)
25. the boycott is a hypocritical at best...
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 03:49 PM
Dec 2013

the boycott wont touch the engine of the israeli economy because its hi tech..and how many of the boycotters will forgo their computer/navigation/communication systems...none

The boycott attempt has two aspects: one is the "low hanging fruit' which is exactly that, israeli foods....which will affect the lower/weaker strands of the israeli society, including the Palestenians which in turn, wont be enough for any serious change, but the boycotters get to feel empowered by hitting at the weaker people in israel and in the PA.

the other end is the censorship crowd, for the Universities, this is more of an immature "feel good" kind of boycott, since the universities are infact the core of the left in israel. Boycotts aimed at them, tend to show the left israelis that the western left is a different animal from the general israeli left (our poster here israeli though in the extreme, will not address that issue for obvious reasons).

and of course censorship is generally considered bad, but there those that don't believe israelis should be heard.

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