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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 09:59 AM Jan 2014

UNESCO cancels Israel exhibit following Arab pressure

Complaints by Arab states led the United Nation’s cultural arm, UNESCO, to cancel the opening of an exhibition on the Jewish presence in the land of Israel.

The exhibition, organized by the Simon Wiesenthal Center along with the governments of Canada and Montenegro, was scheduled to open Jan. 20 at the Paris headquarters of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization.

UNESCO director-general Irina Bokova on Wednesday said in a letter to the Simon Wiesenthal Center that the exhibit, titled “The People, the Book, the Land — 3,500 years of ties between the Jewish people and the Land of Israel,” would be postponed indefinitely. She said the decision arose out of UNESCO’s support for peace talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

“We have a responsibility in ensuring that current efforts in this regard are not endangered,” she wrote.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/.premium-1.569155

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UNESCO cancels Israel exhibit following Arab pressure (Original Post) oberliner Jan 2014 OP
Good. Until israel stops its apartheid like practices, they should be scorned on the international Purveyor Jan 2014 #1
It was not an Israeli government sponsored event oberliner Jan 2014 #2
I stand by my previous comment. eom Purveyor Jan 2014 #3
So, essentially what you support is a boycott on the telling of the history of Jewish people? Kurska Jan 2014 #4
I think it's the essence of a lot if the "AntiZionists " King_David Jan 2014 #8
Now the permalink to this thread would make a great sig line addition King_David Jan 2014 #9
So you're okay with punishing Jews in general leftynyc Jan 2014 #26
Kick King_David Jan 2014 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author King_David Jan 2014 #54
Stop "Apartheid" , Stop MunnyGrubbing,Stop Ergnic Cleansing , Stop the Matzah, stop spreading AIDS King_David Jan 2014 #7
Yeah, I'm sure the ongoing campaign to deny any historic Jewish heritage in the region WatermelonRat Jan 2014 #13
so you believe any anti Israel sentiment is good backwoodsbob Jan 2014 #16
Lot's of noise all around on this one azurnoir Jan 2014 #5
We need to have multiple exhibitions so nobody feels left out. bemildred Jan 2014 #6
That would be something or azurnoir Jan 2014 #17
The place has been a crossroads between continents for literally millions of years. bemildred Jan 2014 #19
Yea and make sure no Jews are involved at all King_David Jan 2014 #21
sigh apparently you don't understand the difference between azurnoir Jan 2014 #41
World Jewish Congress denounces UNESCO cancelation of Israel exhibito King_David Jan 2014 #10
U.S. chides UNESCO for putting Jewish exhibit on hold King_David Jan 2014 #11
Rabbi Heir statement sums up the situation perfectly Mosby Jan 2014 #12
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong .... Israeli Jan 2014 #18
Boycotting is not in itself a bad thing, it all depends on who is getting boycotted, see? bemildred Jan 2014 #20
The claims that need to be "put to bed" .... Israeli Jan 2014 #22
Sorry, I was being sarcastic, and I didn't use the little sarcasm thing. bemildred Jan 2014 #23
my comments were directed at King_David bemildred... Israeli Jan 2014 #24
OK. Wasn't sure. Didn't want to leave it hanging. bemildred Jan 2014 #25
I guess in hindsight it was a good move, King_David Jan 2014 #28
So ..... Israeli Jan 2014 #29
check this out you'll find it interesting indeed azurnoir Jan 2014 #30
find it laughable not interesting .... Israeli Jan 2014 #32
I myself don't really care, King_David Jan 2014 #33
UNESCO Pulls Jewish Exhibit in Paris After Arab League Protest King_David Jan 2014 #14
NewsMax really? azurnoir Jan 2014 #31
Thanks for the important "kick" of this thread that's not really an IP thread, King_David Jan 2014 #34
yes like the fact that UNESCO never canceled the show in the first place azurnoir Jan 2014 #35
Boycotting Jews King_David Jan 2014 #36
except no one was boycotted here there was no boycott of the exhibition period azurnoir Jan 2014 #37
They just postponed it? King_David Jan 2014 #38
Bookmarking. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #40
Great King_David Jan 2014 #43
You should watch out for cholesterol. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #46
so JPost is lying on UNESCO's behalf? azurnoir Jan 2014 #42
No, JPost can't say that UNESCO is lying when it claims that the exhibit is only postponed. aranthus Jan 2014 #50
It's called caving in under pressure. King_David Jan 2014 #52
The important lesson is not about the UN. aranthus Jan 2014 #56
As are the posts in this thread, King_David Feb 2014 #58
Clutching at pearls seems to be more your style presently. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #39
UNESCO halts Israel’s Jewish history show after Arab nations protest King_David Jan 2014 #15
Wait. So which one is it? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #47
As I said , King_David Jan 2014 #48
Your inability to answer truthfully is very illuminating. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #49
That the UN is cowardly in the face leftynyc Jan 2014 #27
Kick King_David Jan 2014 #45
Kick King_David Jan 2014 #53
UNESCO backtraked, King_David Jan 2014 #51
Kicking King_David Jan 2014 #55
Kick King_David Feb 2014 #57
UNESCO and the Jews: Shame King_David Feb 2014 #59
 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
1. Good. Until israel stops its apartheid like practices, they should be scorned on the international
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 07:48 PM
Jan 2014

stage, period.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. It was not an Israeli government sponsored event
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 08:07 PM
Jan 2014

It was sponsored by the governments of Canada and Montenegro in conjunction with the US based Simon Wiesenthal Center.

It was about the history of the Jewish people in relation to the Land of Israel (not the State of Israel).

Kurska

(5,739 posts)
4. So, essentially what you support is a boycott on the telling of the history of Jewish people?
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 09:14 PM
Jan 2014

Because this wasn't done by Israel, yet you want to boycott it. That seems very messed up to me.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
9. Now the permalink to this thread would make a great sig line addition
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 10:21 AM
Jan 2014

Far better than the esoteric cherry picked article that you have in your sig line.

It clearly explains what the motivation of some "Antizionists " is.

Response to King_David (Reply #44)

King_David

(14,851 posts)
7. Stop "Apartheid" , Stop MunnyGrubbing,Stop Ergnic Cleansing , Stop the Matzah, stop spreading AIDS
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 10:13 AM
Jan 2014

Massacre, Apartheid , Colonists,Moneygrubbers
Ethnic Cleansers, Controllers of Hollywood and Wallstreet,Wag the Doggies,eaters of Christian blood and poisoners of Muhammed, Apes and Pigs etc etc etc

WatermelonRat

(340 posts)
13. Yeah, I'm sure the ongoing campaign to deny any historic Jewish heritage in the region
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 04:09 PM
Jan 2014

has nothing to do with your support of this. Your labelling Israel as "apartheid-like" isn't to demonize them, but just a testament to your high moral standards that you apply to everyone. In fact, I'm sure you're working tirelessly right now to see that cultural exhibits from countries like China, Turkey, Lebanon, and Egypt are taken down until those countries learn some respect for human rights.

 

backwoodsbob

(6,001 posts)
16. so you believe any anti Israel sentiment is good
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 02:39 AM
Jan 2014

even if the event has nothing to do with the government of Israel.

Fascinating

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
5. Lot's of noise all around on this one
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 08:17 AM
Jan 2014

State Dep’t had refused to sponsor UNESCO’s cancelled Israel exhibit
US now protesting that show on Jewish people’s historic tie to land of Israel was dropped, but last week it declined invitation to support it

http://www.timesofisrael.com/state-dept-had-refused-to-sponsor-unescos-cancelled-israel-exhibit/

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. We need to have multiple exhibitions so nobody feels left out.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 09:21 AM
Jan 2014

You know, exhibitions on all the many cultures and religions long and important historical links to the region.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
17. That would be something or
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 02:56 AM
Jan 2014

perhaps we need to have it all as one exhibition -The Peoples of the Holy Land-you know this land is mine and his and that guy over there's

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
19. The place has been a crossroads between continents for literally millions of years.
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 08:06 AM
Jan 2014

It is very fancy real estate geographically. And that area has been a cultural mosaic as long as their are records. There are layers and layers and layers.

Edit: one thing T. E. Lawrence does in the "Seven Pillars of Wisdom" is describe that cultural mosaic along the E. Mediterranean shore as it existed 100 years ago. Which is very illuminating when you are raised to think of it as belonging to this group or that.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
21. Yea and make sure no Jews are involved at all
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 11:17 AM
Jan 2014

Because else it would be forbidden anyway, no matter what.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
10. World Jewish Congress denounces UNESCO cancelation of Israel exhibito
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 10:40 AM
Jan 2014


NEW YORK – The World Jewish Congress (WJC) today denounced the cancelation by the UN cultural body UNESCO of an exhibit on Jewish ties to the Land of Israel that was scheduled to open next week in Paris


http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/14367/world_jewish_congress_denounces_unesco_cancelation_of_israel_exhibit

King_David

(14,851 posts)
11. U.S. chides UNESCO for putting Jewish exhibit on hold
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 10:53 AM
Jan 2014

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The United States on Friday criticized UNESCO, the U.N.'s cultural arm, for postponing an exhibition about Jews and the Holy Land due to complaints from Arab member states.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBREA0G1PB20140117?irpc=932

Same as BDS --- And people claim they not boycott of "Jews" and they not boycott of "Jewish Academics" and they not Boycott of "Jewish Businesses" etc etc... Well this should put those claims to bed.

Mosby

(16,304 posts)
12. Rabbi Heir statement sums up the situation perfectly
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 03:04 PM
Jan 2014
“Let’s be clear, the Arab Group’s protest is not over any particular content in the exhibition, but rather the very idea of it – that the Jewish people did not come to the Holy Land only after the Nazi Holocaust, but trace their historical and cultural roots in that land for three-anda- half [sic] millennia. If anything will derail hopes for peace and reconciliation among the people of the Middle East, it will be by surrendering to the forces of extremism and torpedoing the opening of this exhibition – jointly vetted and co-organized by UNESCO and the Simon Wiesenthal Center.”

The exhibit tells the truth about Jews and Israel, can't have that.

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
18. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong ....
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 03:41 AM
Jan 2014

but with referance to this :

" Same as BDS --- And people claim they not boycott of "Jews" and they not boycott of "Jewish Academics" and they not Boycott of "Jewish Businesses" etc etc... Well this should put those claims to bed. "

did not Israel and the US boycott UNESCO a few years ago because it admitted the Palestinians ? If I remember right did not the US also withdraw its funding ?

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
20. Boycotting is not in itself a bad thing, it all depends on who is getting boycotted, see?
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 08:12 AM
Jan 2014

But we get very upset when other people adopt our methods too. That is stealing our intellectual property, and we should at least get some money.

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
22. The claims that need to be "put to bed" ....
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 03:03 AM
Jan 2014

are those that cry anti-Semitism or Israel-bashing bemildred ....when in fact its all about the occupation .

Those that do in this country are almost always from the Right ....the rest of us are not blind or stupid .

see :
http://972mag.com/boycott-goes-prime-time-in-israel/85974/



bemildred

(90,061 posts)
23. Sorry, I was being sarcastic, and I didn't use the little sarcasm thing.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 03:21 AM
Jan 2014

And yeah, I know, Pelsar straightened me up about the settlers too.

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
24. my comments were directed at King_David bemildred...
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 09:04 AM
Jan 2014

not at you , you have nothing to be sorry for .

BTW our Right wing existed long before todays settlers ...not all of the settlers are Right wing .....and the majority of our Right wing are not settlers .

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
25. OK. Wasn't sure. Didn't want to leave it hanging.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 09:19 AM
Jan 2014

You never know what faux pas you will commit next here on the internet.

I often notice the similarities in political style, tone, and tactics between your politicians and ours. And the British taught us both.

They become more alike as time goes on. And you are quite right, it's always messy when you start to actually look at people in terms that go deeper than who their parents were, what dogmas they were taught, and where they live.

And when you get right down to it, plutocracies all look alike, the impulse of humans for mindless acquisition is a strange attractor, it always looks the same: class system, all the money in a few big piles instead of milions of little piles, the government totally at the service of those big piles of money, and corruption of public debate and policy in service to the big piles of money too.

And we both used to be better.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
28. I guess in hindsight it was a good move,
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:49 AM
Jan 2014

This was a Jewish planned exhibit. It had a USA Jewish group sponsor as well as Canada and Montenegro but the USA and Israel were not involved.

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
29. So .....
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 03:22 AM
Jan 2014

" I guess in hindsight it was a good move "

... boycotting is okay as long as it suits your politics .... but not okay if it doesnt ??

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
30. check this out you'll find it interesting indeed
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 04:48 AM
Jan 2014

UNESCO, on its website and in letters to the Center, had always said the exhibit was postponed. The absence of an alternative date, however, gave the impression that the exhibit had been canceled.

On Tuesday, UNESCO posted a note on its website in which it reaffirmed that the exhibit had only been postponed, but not canceled.

“UNESCO is in discussions with the Simon Wiesenthal Center to finalize the last points and inaugurate the exhibition in the month of June,” it said.

http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/UNESCO-looks-to-hold-Land-of-Israel-exhibit-in-June-338941

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
32. find it laughable not interesting ....
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 07:46 AM
Jan 2014
Exhibit was postponed in response to a protest by Arab states who fear it could damage the peace process.


What " peace process " ??? !!!!!

http://972mag.com/peace-groups-should-criticize-kerry-too/86100/

If true, this proposal seems to be tailored to suit the political needs of Benjamin Netanyahu and his coalition partners. No credible Palestinian leader can accept those terms; Abbas is likely to say no, and even if he can be persuaded or bullied into signing such a deal, he won’t be able to implement it. The occupation, in all likelihood, will not end.

Netanyahu, whose political strategy is all about maintaining the status quo, will score a major victory. The American proposal will be too vague to really hurt him politically. In any case, the negotiations will drag on and on and the implementation phase will be long enough that he won’t be forced to actually do anything, let alone evacuate major settlements (which of course is the heart of the matter and the only true litmus test for his political intentions).

In fact, the Israeli prime minister is likely to emerge as the winner regardless of the Palestinian response: if Abbas says yes, international pressure on Israel will be lessened and his government will receive all the benefits – from recognition to financial aid – of an agreement, but without actually doing much. And if Abbas rejects the American plan, as some reports suggest he intends to, Netanyahu will blame “Arab rejectionism” for missing out on another “generous offer.” This is probably the best outcome as far as Bibi and his right-wing coalition partners are concerned.


King_David

(14,851 posts)
33. I myself don't really care,
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 08:04 AM
Jan 2014

Boycotting a Jewish exhibit is not politics it's hateful bigoted AntiSemitism .

King_David

(14,851 posts)
14. UNESCO Pulls Jewish Exhibit in Paris After Arab League Protest
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 05:53 PM
Jan 2014

UNESCO, the United Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization, has canceled a Jewish exhibit in Paris that it has been working on for two years after a recent protest from the Arab League.

"People, Book, Land — The 3,500 Year Relationship of the Jewish People and the Land of Israel," was scheduled to open Jan. 20 at UNESCO's Paris headquarters. It was a corroborative effort of the the UN organization and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, based in Los Angeles, The Algemeiner reported.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/united-nations-israel-exhibit/2014/01/17/id/547747#ixzz2qn0baLZR

King_David

(14,851 posts)
34. Thanks for the important "kick" of this thread that's not really an IP thread,
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 08:09 AM
Jan 2014

But is so important for what it reveals from some of the posts here.
The other UNESCO thread too.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
35. yes like the fact that UNESCO never canceled the show in the first place
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 08:11 AM
Jan 2014

I think that's pretty important don't you?

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
37. except no one was boycotted here there was no boycott of the exhibition period
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:00 AM
Jan 2014

UNESCO, on its website and in letters to the Center, had always said the exhibit was postponed. The absence of an alternative date, however, gave the impression that the exhibit had been canceled.

On Tuesday, UNESCO posted a note on its website in which it reaffirmed that the exhibit had only been postponed, but not canceled.

“UNESCO is in discussions with the Simon Wiesenthal Center to finalize the last points and inaugurate the exhibition in the month of June,” it said.

http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/UNESCO-looks-to-hold-Land-of-Israel-exhibit-in-June-338941

King_David

(14,851 posts)
38. They just postponed it?
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:42 AM
Jan 2014

Think anyone believes that ?

No AntiSemitism here... Move along .. It's just "postponed "

Ha ha ha ha

Sure ...



Read posts 1 and 3 for the real meaning of this UNESCO BDS boycott of Jews.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
42. so JPost is lying on UNESCO's behalf?
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:17 AM
Jan 2014

somewhere very hot just froze over and they're throwing a skating party

aranthus

(3,385 posts)
50. No, JPost can't say that UNESCO is lying when it claims that the exhibit is only postponed.
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 09:08 PM
Jan 2014

It may even be true that UNESCO is telling the truth (politicians do that sometime). But if they are lying, JPost can't directly say so. It's up to intelligent people to read between the lines. The fact that there isn't a set time and place for the postponed exhibit suggests that UNESCO is just trying to divert bad press. If June comes around and the exhibit actually comes off, then great. If it doesn't, I won't be at all surprised.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
52. It's called caving in under pressure.
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 08:32 AM
Jan 2014

But no one knew this when posting in this thread at the time the OO was posted .
They cancelled the Jewish Exhibition an never expected an outcry because as far as they knew it was just a Jewisg exhibition and as we know they are ok to be boycotted.

aranthus

(3,385 posts)
56. The important lesson is not about the UN.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 03:36 PM
Jan 2014

Anyone with any sense knows that the UN is a craven tool. What is important is the type of exhibit that was cancelled. It was a history presentation. That the Arab states still object to even the presentation of Jewish history in the Holy Land is telling.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
39. Clutching at pearls seems to be more your style presently.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 12:41 AM
Jan 2014

How many times has it been stated that the exhibit has not been canceled but only postponed?

King_David

(14,851 posts)
15. UNESCO halts Israel’s Jewish history show after Arab nations protest
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 05:56 PM
Jan 2014
Rabbi Marvin Hier, dean and founder of the Wiesenthal Center, labeled UNESCO’s decision a sign of the organization’s inherent bias against Israel and Jews.



http://www.jewishjournal.com/world/article/unesco_halts_israels_jewish_history_show_after_arab_nations_protest
 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
47. Wait. So which one is it?
Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:25 PM
Jan 2014

You have written that it wasn't about Israel, but now you are sourcing that it is about Israel.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
27. That the UN is cowardly in the face
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 05:44 PM
Jan 2014

of majority Arab countries having a hissy fit shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

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