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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 09:21 AM Jul 2014

The government must refrain from acts of vengeance and security forces must prepare for possible act


Published:
30 Jun 2014

B'Tselem renews its call to the Israeli government to refrain from acts of vengeance for the abduction and killing of the three Israeli teens. B'Tselem cautions the security forces to avoid harming the innocent Palestinian population, or abusing the public atmosphere in Israel with the discovery of the bodies, to impose collective punishment, as was done in the past two weeks as part of the searches. The deliberate harming of an entire civilian population as punishment for the actions of individuals is both illegal and immoral. Additionally, the security forces must prepare for possible acts of revenge by settlers.

http://www.btselem.org/press_releases/20140630_refrain_from_acts_of_vengeance
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The government must refrain from acts of vengeance and security forces must prepare for possible act (Original Post) Jefferson23 Jul 2014 OP
Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu vows retribution over slain teenagers bemildred Jul 2014 #1
One can always, it seems to me, count on Bibi to be and remain an asshole. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #2
Bibi thinks retributively, I would say ... bemildred Jul 2014 #3
Yep, plenty of evidence of it too. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #4
While ignoring his country's own R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #5
I think that's kind of the point. "He made me do it." lives far past the sixth grade. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #6
Bibi just loves alsame Jul 2014 #7
Punishing Hamas is not collective punishment King_David Jul 2014 #8
So just keep bombing and alsame Jul 2014 #9
Israel is not occupying Gaza nt King_David Jul 2014 #10
ROFL. Still can't alsame Jul 2014 #11
Your question was attached to a bunch of inaccurate information King_David Jul 2014 #12
I never mentioned Gaza, you alsame Jul 2014 #13
"you don't think Israel could find one in territories they are occupying? " King_David Jul 2014 #14
I really wasn't trying to alsame Jul 2014 #15
It's alright. Dave is just making friends R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #16
That was my first alsame Jul 2014 #17

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
1. Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu vows retribution over slain teenagers
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 11:10 AM
Jul 2014

An 18-day search for three Israeli teenagers who vanished while hitchhiking in the West Bank came to a bitter end Monday in an open field, under a small pile of rocks, with the discovery of bodies presumed to be theirs.

The find, which culminated a massive military manhunt, plunged Israel into a state of collective grief and anger, prompting spontaneous candlelight vigils around the country and provoking a threat of retribution from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Saying the three had been “abducted and murdered in cold blood by human animals,” Netanyahu vowed, “Hamas is responsible and Hamas will pay.”

The Palestinian faction, regarded as a terrorist organization by Israel and the United States, has not claimed responsibility for the teens’ disappearance. The grim conclusion to the manhunt will add to the pressure on Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to cut ties with Hamas.

http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-israel-missing-teenagers-bodies-20140630-story.html#navtype=outfit

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
2. One can always, it seems to me, count on Bibi to be and remain an asshole.
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 12:22 PM
Jul 2014

Retribution versus justice sounds just like another group I read about.

alsame

(7,784 posts)
7. Bibi just loves
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 01:25 PM
Jul 2014

collective punishment.

I suppose the idea of an investigation and the capture/punishment of only those responsible is too much to ask.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
8. Punishing Hamas is not collective punishment
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 01:34 PM
Jul 2014

What it is,is punishing a terrorist organization for the murder and butcher in cold blood of 3 Jewish children.

alsame

(7,784 posts)
9. So just keep bombing and
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 02:20 PM
Jul 2014

eventually they'll kill the right people? I assume members of the "terrorist organization" are clearly marked so that no innocent people are killed in cold blood, including Palestinian children?

And you didn't answer my question - why is it unreasonable to have an investigation and find those responsible? If the US could find a perp in Libya, you don't think Israel could find one in territories they are occupying?

King_David

(14,851 posts)
12. Your question was attached to a bunch of inaccurate information
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 02:29 PM
Jul 2014

Israel is not occupying Gaza and so it seemed futile answering a question that was deemed irrelevant as it followed inaccurate information to begin with.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
14. "you don't think Israel could find one in territories they are occupying? "
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 02:59 PM
Jul 2014

Hamas is in Gaza mainly.

alsame

(7,784 posts)
15. I really wasn't trying to
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 03:11 PM
Jul 2014

argue with you, I was honestly asking why this is acceptable rather than a traditional investigation to find and arrest criminals. You have not answered that question, you seem to be okay with bombs as a response.

My point is that if Israel thought the suspects were in London, they wouldn't drop bombs, would they? Of course not, they'd work through intelligence and legal channels. So why is it okay to start dropping bombs on Palestinians? Do you honestly believe there is no collateral damage or do you not care?

And, just so you know, I find it equally disgusting that we use drones and drop bombs all over the word in our never ending search for terrorists. How many innocents have we killed?

alsame

(7,784 posts)
17. That was my first
Wed Jul 2, 2014, 02:16 PM
Jul 2014

ever interaction with him - I guess I'm just too stupid to deserve a response to my question.

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