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Israeli

(4,148 posts)
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 01:41 AM Jul 2014

Politics of madness.

It is becoming clear that the government, army and security services assumed from the start that the three boys were no longer alive. Probably, it was no surprise for them that there did not come any claim of responsibility, and no proposal of negotiating their release. The soldiers who conducted the searches on the ground were instructed to turn every stone, quite literally, and also to empty water holes and search their bottoms. The soldiers were sent to look for dead bodies, not for hostages. But on the media were imposed gag orders, preventing them from publishing information pointing to the death of the boys. The Israeli public was called to take part in mass prayers and rallies on city squares with the call "Bring back our boys" and one gets the impression that also the three families going from hope to despair were not informed to the full.

To whom was it worthwhile and why? It is not difficult to guess. Long before Gil-Ad Shaer, Eyal Yifrah and Naftali Fraenkel took their fateful ride, Binyamin Netanyahu already marked as a primary target the Palestinian Reconciliation Agreement. He was determined to drive a wedge and break up at any price the "Technocrat Government" created jointly by Fatah and Hamas. From the first day the government of Israel declared Hamas to be responsible for the kidnapping - a clear proof, if it exists, has not been published until this moment.

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Politics of madness. (Original Post) Israeli Jul 2014 OP
The exploitation of this atrocity to inflame political passions has been disgusting to watch. bemildred Jul 2014 #1
" And will have unpleasant consequences to match " ..... Israeli Jul 2014 #2
Peace be unto you. bemildred Jul 2014 #6
Political positioning for the sake of the state, foremost in Bibi's priorities...twisted bastard. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #3
Israel does not want peace. Gideon Levy Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #4
Hamas committed to unity deal despite Israeli pressure Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #5
Was Israeli public misled on abductions? Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #7
How Israel turned tragedy into opportunity bemildred Jul 2014 #9
Very well researched article, thank you. At this point in time I am not finding the press Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #10
We will see. You have to understand what the game is about. bemildred Jul 2014 #11
Ok, Bibi's angle, I get that..he has been so obvious. I had not considered Hamas to be open to Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #15
And yeah, it's disgusting all around. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #12
Crazy, too. I thought this was interesting as well: Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #16
That sounds about right. bemildred Jul 2014 #17
It touches on your thoughts..Egypts next move will be one to watch for too. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #18
Yes. The international noise level seems to be going up rapidly too. bemildred Jul 2014 #19
You made a good call, and Hamas is going in that direction. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #20
kick Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #8
Stay safe, Israeli. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2014 #13
+1. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #14
.... +100 840high Jul 2014 #30
More politics of madness: Re: Send your Support to Israeli Soldiers Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #21
Ground operation follows deceptive measures aimed at Hamas Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #22
So Hamas takes the truce, and then BAM! they get hit. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #23
Yes, true madness. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #24
A man with a plan: MK Moshe Feiglin Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #25
Yeah, it would be simple, and work out great, really, it would. bemildred Jul 2014 #26
Yep..when you have it all figure out, go with it. Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #27
Popcorn time with that one. bemildred Jul 2014 #28
He has taught me well, that dear man of peace..Moshe. n/t Jefferson23 Jul 2014 #29

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
1. The exploitation of this atrocity to inflame political passions has been disgusting to watch.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 02:11 AM
Jul 2014

And will have unpleasant consequences to match, I expect. And yeah, transparently to prevent a unified Palestinian government.

Israeli

(4,148 posts)
2. " And will have unpleasant consequences to match " .....
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 03:40 AM
Jul 2014

Everywhere bemildred ...... not just in Jerusalem :

http://972mag.com/watch-israeli-jews-attack-palestinian-on-public-bus/93003/

The following video shows an incident that took place on a municipal bus in the greater Tel Aviv area (near Bnei Brak, for those who know the territory). This was a couple of days ago, shortly after the bodies of three Jewish boys who were abducted in mid-June were discovered in the West Bank.


although Jerusalem is the worst right now :

Mobs of hyper-nationalist Jews are roaming the streets of downtown West Jerusalem, past people sitting at outdoor cafes, shouting “death to Arabs!” with impunity. The police are not enforcing the anti-incitement laws against Jews. But in East Jerusalem, the police are shooting Palestinian demonstrators, who are out protesting the abduction and murder of 16 year-old Mohammed Abu Khdeir, with foam-tipped rubber-coated steel bullets and tear gas. They are beating them, often very badly,and arresting them. People are barricading themselves in their homes, afraid to leave.

This is a terrible, frightening time. Perhaps a point of no return.


....and the other side of the coin :

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4538061,00.html

Peace .....in all of our dreams ...god knows where we are headed ...and god forgive us and this damned Gov of ours for the " unpleasant consequences " to come .





bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. Peace be unto you.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 09:04 AM
Jul 2014

Last edited Sat Jul 5, 2014, 01:07 PM - Edit history (2)

This cannot go on forever. the basic problem anti-Arab types face in Israel is what to do with all of those Arabs? Killing them all or expelling them all are forbidden, it will be the end of Israel if they do, Israel will be shunned, if not outright destroyed, and rightly so. And they are not going anywhere, those Arabs, and the violence will continue and escalate or decline as the condition of the Arabs improves or declines, as long as this arrangement we have now goes on. This is as good as it gets down this road.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
4. Israel does not want peace. Gideon Levy
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 08:35 AM
Jul 2014

Israel does not want peace. There is nothing I have ever written that I would be happier to be proved wrong about. But the evidence is piling up. In fact, it can be said that Israel has never wanted peace – a just peace, that is, one based on a just compromise for both sides. It’s true that the routine greeting in Hebrew is Shalom (peace) – shalom when one leaves and shalom when one arrives. And, at the drop of a hat, almost every Israeli will say he wants peace, of course he does. But he’s not referring to the kind of peace that will bring about the justice without which there is no peace and there will be no peace. Israelis want peace, not justice, certainly not anything based on universal values. Thus, “Peace, peace, when there is no peace.” Not only is there no peace: In recent years, Israel has moved away from even the aspiration to make peace. It has despaired utterly of it. Peace has disappeared from the Israeli agenda, its place taken by the collective anxieties that are systematically implanted, and by personal, private matters that now take precedence over all else.

The Israeli longing for peace seemingly died about a decade ago, after the failure of the Camp David summit in 2000, the dissemination of the lie that there is no Palestinian partner for peace, and, of course, the horrific blood-soaked period of the second intifada. But the truth is that even before that, Israel never really wanted peace. Israel has never, not for a minute, treated the Palestinians as human beings with equal rights. It has never viewed their distress as understandable human and national distress.


The Israeli peace camp, too – if ever there was such a thing – also died a lingering death amid the harrowing scenes of the second intifada and the no-partner lie. All that remained were a handful of organizations that were as determined and devoted as they were ineffectual in the face of the delegitimization campaigns mounted against them. Israel, therefore, was left with its rejectionist stance.

The single most overwhelming item of evidence of Israel’s rejection of peace is, of course, the settlements project. From the dawn of its existence, there has never been a more reliable or more precise litmus test for Israel’s true intentions than this particular enterprise. In plain words: The builders of settlements want to consolidate the occupation, and those who want to consolidate the occupation do not want peace. That’s the whole story in a nutshell.

in full: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-peace-conference/1.601112

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
5. Hamas committed to unity deal despite Israeli pressure
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 09:01 AM
Jul 2014

July 3, 2014

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip — Hamas remains committed to Palestinian reconciliation, contrary to reports suggesting the deal might fall apart because of Israeli pressure in the wake of the kidnapping and murder of Israeli and Palestinian teenagers. Strong Israeli opposition has largely rendered the Palestinian unity government unable to bring about desired changes on the ground, despite its receiving endorsements from the European Union and the United States.

After the announcement of the government, bringing an end to seven years of division between the West Bank and Gaza Strip, Israel tried but failed to stymie international backing and recognition of it. It has, however, succeeded in exploiting the kidnapping and killing of the three settlers to incite against Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.

In light of recent crises, Gaza residents seem skeptical of the possibility that Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah’s government will succeed in achieving true reconciliation and restore unity between the two territories. Prominent among the crises are the government’s inability to pay the wages of former Hamas government employees and the emergence of public disputes between the factions over the issue.

Hamas official Bassem Naim expressed his displeasure over the unity government's handling of the salaries issue. He thought the matter would be easily overcome, but instead, he believes, its resolution was intentionally delayed out of fear of Israeli pressure. Naim told Al-Monitor, “Israel was incapable of preventing reconciliation between Palestinians, in light of the clear European support afforded to the new government. Still, President Abbas seemed uninterested in moving forward with achieving unity for irrational reasons.”

The Palestinian government has blamed the nonpayment on international pressure threatening to impose financial sanctions on it if it paid the salaries of employees previously appointed by Hamas. Naim rejected this contention, stating, “We have met with many European diplomats who never raised this matter. The issue is solely related to Israeli pressure.”

Meanwhile, following the abduction of the three Hebron settlers, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu never missed an opportunity to attack the unity government, blaming security tensions in the West Bank and Gaza on Abbas’ alliance with Hamas.

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/07/palestine-hamas-committed-reconciliation-israel-kidnapping.html#ixzz36bBF4vdT

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
7. Was Israeli public misled on abductions?
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 10:00 AM
Jul 2014
This is how it began: It happened on June 12 at 10:15 p.m., at the hitchhiking station close to the Alon Shvut settlement in Judea and Samaria. Three boys — Gil-Ad Shaer, Naftali Frenkel and Eyal Yifrach — got into a Hyundai driven by Marwan Qawasmeh and Amar Abu Aisha, two terrorists from Hebron.

The radio was set to the news channel of Israel's public radio to deceive the hitchhikers into thinking it was an Israeli car. The voice of Knesset member Shelly Yachimovich was heard on the radio. Later, Yachimovich was to describe that interview, which served as the setting for the horrifying murder of the youths, as a relaxed conversation she held in her yard on a Tel Aviv summer evening.

When the boys realized that the Hyundai passengers were not Jews but terrorists, one of them succeeded in calling the police emergency call center and whispered, "We've been kidnapped." In the recording of that phone call, one of the abductors was heard shouting in Hebrew, "Heads down!" Then there were sounds of shouting, volleys from an automatic weapon and a weak voice sighing "Ai," of someone who was injured. This was followed by another volley of shots from an automatic weapon, and the boys fell silent. Then the murderers burst out singing.

It was a murder in real-time, horrifying and monstrous. Three Israeli boys who attempted to hitch a ride on their way to their weekend Shabbat at home were murdered in cold blood. And the police had recorded documentation of the murder. Like in the movies.

Examination of the burned Hyundai found near Halhul, north of Hebron, only verified what was already known from listening to the tape. The numerous bloodstains and DNA findings left no room for hope. But Israel's defense and political systems closed ranks and transmitted one message, loud and clear: The State of Israel is closely tracking the fates of the three missing boys, who were abducted for bargaining purposes to free Palestinian prisoners. Thus, searches are underway to free them.

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/07/misleading-kidnapping-almoz-hamas-vengeance-hatred.html#ixzz36bPvisd2

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
9. How Israel turned tragedy into opportunity
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 04:53 PM
Jul 2014

On June 12, three Israelis settlers [1] were murdered by two Palestinian extremists. When news broke of a kidnapping and possible murder, rumors swirled in the West Bank of an Israeli false flag operation. After all, the reasoning went, no Palestinian political player stood to gain from a kidnapping. As the story developed it became clear that this was only wishful thinking by Palestinians who were too ashamed to admit that two of their countrymen were responsible for a hideous crime.

It is now widely accepted that there was never a kidnapping and no one investigating the incident ever suspected one. To be sure, three Israeli settlers were killed, but it was done immediately without the intent to ever hold them. The act itself sounds like an American B movie horror flick. On the evening of June 12, two men picked up three young hitchhikers and summarily executed them.

Rachelle Fraenkel is the mother of one of the murdered Israelis. While testifying before the UN Human Rights Council she said "[e]very mother's nightmare is waiting and waiting endlessly for her child to come home". The Israeli government cynically prolonged the suffering of the aggrieved families and marketed the agony of the three grief-stricken mothers to the UN for political gain.

Throughout Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's two-and-a-half week grandstanding,he knew the settlers were dead. There were gunshots on the emergency call, and an Arab voice saying they had killed three. Their blood was found in a vehicle riddled with bullet holes. Israel had already arrested those who had done it in Hebron just days after it happened and quite possibly knew where the bodies were buried. Due to a press gag order, none of this was made public until 18 days later when the bodies were "discovered". The Israeli government lied to both the Israeli people and international observers and disrespected the memory of those killed by turning a tragedy into a political opportunity.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-01-080714.html

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
10. Very well researched article, thank you. At this point in time I am not finding the press
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 05:55 PM
Jul 2014

asking the good questions..maybe I have missed it. Are they calling out Bibi as to
what is the evidence to claim Hamas responsible? They should be hounding him, they can
see that when you connect the dots, Israel looks pathetic and untrustworthy, putting
politics before everything...collective punishment, all of it.

Let's not forget the two killed back in May, the surveillance proved able to refute
Israel's defense of the IDF and the rubber bullet nonsense..don't dare call that
incitement.

Obviously, we don't know who kidnapped and murdered the teens, yet the unity governments
success hinges upon the truth, I would think.

Interesting to me, will anyone on the left in their government go after Bibi?

I am not too hopeful.



bemildred

(90,061 posts)
11. We will see. You have to understand what the game is about.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 06:10 PM
Jul 2014

Hamas wants to establish a credible deterrent against the IDF. I suspect they are happy to go to war now. The way they do that is keep firing rockets. The IDF will try to suppress the rocket fire by all means at its disposal and that it thinks it can get away with.

Bibi on the other hand wants to thwart a united Palestinian government, which would remove one of his excuses for not negotiating, and also he would like to re-establish deterrence, which as you can see, is lacking, has been since the 2nd Lebanon War. So this is an attempted replay of the 2nd Lebanon War on both sides. Hamas hoping to emulate Hezbollah, and Bibi hoping to restore the deterrence lost in 2006 and thwart the unity government.

I have not looked into it, but I would not assume that Hamas will get no help. You notice they make a point of using the longer range rockets. Both sides will be under pressure as casualties mount.

"theatrical micro-militarism".

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
15. Ok, Bibi's angle, I get that..he has been so obvious. I had not considered Hamas to be open to
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 07:17 PM
Jul 2014

seeing this as an opportunity..it seems so damn futile. They were no where, but you bring
up a very good point. ..they may get help, if not already. Hamas I read, did mention they
were getting prepared and implied they could do some serious damage..I took that as
a bluff at the time..but they are hitting back hard now. I think you're likely correct about
Hamas, I had expected them to begin to back off, but clearly that is not happening and
Egypt has been noticeably quiet, too...so far.

Good observations, thanks.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
16. Crazy, too. I thought this was interesting as well:
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 08:14 PM
Jul 2014

Hamas is looking for a way out

The organization’s financial straits far outweigh the image boost provided by Operation Protective Edge.
By Zvi Bar'el | Jul. 8, 2014

Hamas did not order Operation Protective Edge. It also did not want to participate in the festival of Qassam rocket firings started by Islamic Jihad and the Popular Committees. All these were in clear contrast to the interests that have guided Hamas so far.

Khaled Meshal, the head of the Hamas political leadership abroad who praised “the hands that carried out the kidnapping of the settlers,” went to the trouble of declaring that Hamas did not know in advance of the abductions and his organization was not behind the incident. As far as he is concerned, the abductions, murders and their consequences ruined a number of political moves he had been trying to develop since the reconciliation with Fatah; and now it has brought the Israeli operation down on him.

Hamas’ single most important issue is preserving its status as the sole ruler of the Gaza Strip, both from a military and a civilian perspective. From the security standpoint, Hamas enjoys the status of being solely in charge – a status given to it by Israel. The civilian side is where things have become more unstable, because of the deep economic crisis that has hit it, the severing of relations with Egypt and the closing of the Rafah border crossing, and the destruction of most of the tunnels by the Egyptian army, which served for smuggling goods and weapons from Egypt and used to be Hamas’ main source of funding.

The financial support Hamas received from Qatar also fell victim to the pressure put on Qatar by Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain – who all returned their ambassadors from Qatar with the excuse that Qatar is harming their foreign policy, and mostly because in their eyes Qatar is interfering in the matters of other Arab nations.

The essence of the claim was against Qatar’s support for Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood and some of the militias in Syria, in opposition to Saudi Arabia’s fierce stance against them. Qatar’s support for Hamas, which the Egyptians view as part of the Muslim Brotherhood, both of which are described as terrorist organizations, has also infuriated the Saudis. The attempts at reconciliation between Qatar and the other Gulf States have cost Hamas in its own reconciliation with Fatah, since Hamas was forced to pay the price by making concessions of its own: agreeing to a unity government based on the framework Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas wanted – even before holding elections – and without setting a date for an election for the Palestinian National Council, the Palestinian Authority and the presidency.

The abductions caught Hamas during a period that put its political strength to a severe test, when it turned out that the new unity government did not intend to pay the salaries of most Hamas government employees in Gaza and decided to make do with paying the salaries only of the PA’s workers. Qatar, which offered to pay $20 million to make up the difference in salary payments, was faced with the opposition of the Palestinian bank branches in Gaza that pay out the salaries. The banks said they did not want to get embroiled in troubles with Israel, which cast a veto on the transfer of money to Hamas employees.

The rebellion of the Hamas government officials made it clear to the organization’s leadership that as a result of the reconciliation its control over the funding of its supporters is in danger. At the same time, Egypt also was in no hurry to implement its promise to open the Rafah crossing completely, since it insists that supervisors from the unity government man the crossing, and no such agreement has yet been reached.

And so – despite the public declarations from the Hamas leadership and the PA that “there is no retreat from the reconciliation agreement” and it is an “essential national goal” – at least so far the agreement is seen as a too-expensive payment Hamas has made in return for a chance to rehabilitate the organization’s status. The abduction and murder of the three youths, and Abbas’ thunderous condemnation of it at the conference in Saudi Arabia, was an unprecedented threatening signal to the continued survival of the reconciliation – a situation that would isolate Hamas, with no known means of funding.

Operation Protective Edge, despite all the damage it is causing in Gaza, could as a result actually improve Hamas’ political standing for now. Abbas, who shows solidarity with the Palestinian public in Gaza, is in any case providing his support for Hamas, which is “standing firm” against the Israeli attacks. This position could also calm the harsh criticism against Abbas for the continued security coordination with Israel. Egypt may have failed in its attempts to reach a cease-fire, but it can officially – despite the crisis in relations with Hamas – renounce any responsibility for the attacks on Gaza.

Meanwhile, Egyptian journalists are avoiding reporting on the operation in depth, President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi did not even mention the situation in Gaza in his speech Monday evening, and the editorials were dedicated to internal Egyptian matters. Some commentators went as far as claiming that the Israeli operation in Gaza was coordinated in advance between Israel and Egypt. But this Egyptian position is likely to change if the operation is expanded or the aerial bombardment causes dozens of deaths. But despite the political profit Hamas will likely reap from the attacks, it seems the organization is still trying to limit its extent, or even bring it to an end.

Meshal recently asked Turkey and Qatar to attempt to convince Israel to stop the attacks, and the Hamas leadership is calling on all the organizations in the Gaza Strip to “unite in the face of the Israeli aggression.” This is an interesting appeal that testifies to the fact that Hamas is incapable of enforcing its will over some of the organizations, and it has been dragged into a war situation because of the actions of the separatist organizations who started the rocket attacks in the first place.

This is how Hamas has found itself in the same situation as Abbas. Hamas was the one in the past who challenged the peace negotiations and Abbas’ policies; but now, when Hamas actually aspires to rehabilitate its image, it finds itself in competition with the separatist organizations in Gaza. The way out for Hamas is through external mediation that will offer a temporary cease-fire, from which it will be possible to return to the rules of the game that were set after Operation Pillar of Defense in November 2012.

True, Hamas is presenting other demands too, such as the end to further arrests of its activists in the West Bank, as well as the release of the prisoners freed in the Gilad Shalit deal who were rearrested by Israel in the wake of the kidnapping and murders; but Hamas sources say these are not demands made of steel. The solution to the economic crisis of Hamas is more important, along with the continued implementation of the reconciliation with Fatah and the PA.

http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page/.premium-1.603847?trailingPath=2.169%2C2.216%2C2.218%2C

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
17. That sounds about right.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 08:35 PM
Jul 2014

I saw another one like that (Slate I think) but I can't find it now. Yours is better.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
19. Yes. The international noise level seems to be going up rapidly too.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 08:45 PM
Jul 2014

It sort of explains my thoughts, but better than I do. I actually ran into that line of thought in another piece after I wrote that little precis up there, and it really fleshes in the background, which I have not been following lately. I was more or less going by the history of these things. But that makes it plain. All the more likely Hamas will go for broke if it comes to that.

al Sisi is going to have to make up his mind about Rafah. He looks like a real piece of work to me, I have no idea what he might do.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
20. You made a good call, and Hamas is going in that direction.
Tue Jul 8, 2014, 08:51 PM
Jul 2014

To me they are both going out on a limb, each will pay different dues, but they'll pay.

Mashal will be very lucky if he gets much sway with Sisi, another dangerous leader.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
21. More politics of madness: Re: Send your Support to Israeli Soldiers
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 12:58 PM
Jul 2014
To ask for support for the Israeli soldiers who are engaged in such death and destruction is an abomination

From Leslie Brent
July 15, 2014

Dear Rabbi Ofen,

I don’t know how you obtained my e-mail address, but I was shocked and deeply upset to receive your appeal for support, both financial and moral, for the Israeli soldiers who are currently engaged in what I regard as war crimes against the civilian Palestinian population. This military action by your government, like so many others that went before it, is totally out of proportion to whatever crimes a few Palestinians, whose identity still remains to be established, have committed. The abduction and killing of the three Israeli teenagers was of course an abhorrent crime, as was the subsequent ghastly murder – the burning of the poor boy alive — of an innocent Palestinian teenager by a gang of ultra-orthodox Israelis. To ask for support for the Israeli soldiers who are engaged in the brutal and indiscriminate destruction of Palestinian homes and the death of at least 160, with well over a thousand wounded, is an outrage – in biblical terms an abomination. If you really think that this kind of action, which we see again and again, will resolve the problems Israel is facing you must be utterly deluded.

I am writing as someone who escaped the Holocaust by the skin of his teeth and whose family was murdered by the Germans. It is high time that the Israeli government no longer hides in the shadow of the Holocaust, which it seems to use as a justification for its brutal approach to the subjugation of the Palestinians. I believe, with many others, including a minority of Israelis, that only a fair and equitable solution, with a return to the 1967 borders and the formation of a Palestinian state, can assure peace in the Middle East and the ultimate survival of Israel.

Leslie Baruch Brent (Emeritus Professor)

http://jfjfp.com/?p=62391

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
22. Ground operation follows deceptive measures aimed at Hamas
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 06:42 PM
Jul 2014
Israel’s inner cabinet decided on expansion of military activities on Tuesday, after Egypt’s cease-fire efforts failed; news media were told a decision would only be made Friday morning.

By Barak Ravid | 01:18 18.07.14


The Israel Defense Forces ground operation in the Gaza Strip began after the inner cabinet met in secret on Thursday night in Tel Aviv. In a deceptive maneuver intended to give the impression that no significant expansion of the military operation would happen in the next 24 hours, Israeli officials told reporters the security cabinet would only be meeting on Friday morning.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.605853

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
25. A man with a plan: MK Moshe Feiglin
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 07:53 PM
Jul 2014
Ultimatum – One warning from the Prime Minister of Israel to the enemy population, in which he announces that Israel is about to attack military targets in their area and urges those who are not involved and do not wish to be harmed to leave immediately. Sinai is not far from Gaza and they can leave. This will be the limit of Israel’s humanitarian efforts. Hamas may unconditionally surrender and prevent the attack.

Attack – Attack the entire ‘target bank’ throughout Gaza with the IDF’s maximum force (and not a tiny fraction of it) with all the conventional means at its disposal. All the military and infrastructural targets will be attacked with no consideration for ‘human shields’ or ‘environmental damage’. It is enough that we are hitting exact targets and that we gave them advance warning.

Siege – Parallel to the above, a total siege on Gaza. Nothing will enter the area. Israel, however, will allow exit from Gaza. (Civilians may go to Sinai, fighters may surrender to IDF forces).

Defense – Any place from which Israel or Israel’s forces were attacked will be immediately attacked with full force and no consideration for ‘human shields’ or ‘environmental damage’.

Conquer – After the IDF completes the "softening" of the targets with its fire-power, the IDF will conquer the entire Gaza, using all the means necessary to minimize any harm to our soldiers, with no other considerations.

Elimination- The GSS and IDF will thoroughly eliminate all armed enemies from Gaza. The enemy population that is innocent of wrong-doing and separated itself from the armed terrorists will be treated in accordance with international law and will be allowed to leave. Israel will generously aid those who wish to leave.

Sovereignty – Gaza is part of our Land and we will remain there forever. Liberation of parts of our land forever is the only thing that justifies endangering our soldiers in battle to capture land. Subsequent to the elimination of terror from Gaza, it will become part of sovereign Israel and will be populated by Jews. This will also serve to ease the housing crisis in Israel. The coastal train line will be extended, as soon as possible, to reach the entire length of Gaza.

According to polls, most of the Arabs in Gaza wish to leave. Those who were not involved in anti-Israel activity will be offered a generous international emigration package. Those who choose to remain will receive permanent resident status. After a number of years of living in Israel and becoming accustomed to it, contingent on appropriate legislation in the Knesset and the authorization of the Minister of Interior, those who personally accept upon themselves Israel’s rule, substance and way of life of the Jewish State in its Land, will be offered Israeli citizenship.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15326#.U8hgkbFA2zJ

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
26. Yeah, it would be simple, and work out great, really, it would.
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 07:59 PM
Jul 2014

Perfect for a PowerPoint presentation.

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