Israel says cease-fire possible only if it ensures long-term quiet

[cali]

Israel is not ruling out a cease-fire in the Gaza Strip if it results in a significant change in the situation inside Gaza and a restoration of quiet to the South, diplomatic officials said Saturday night.

The officials’ comments came as the UN Security Council issued a statement calling for a cease-fire, and as the foreign ministers of the US, France, Germany and Britain were set to discuss the situation at a meeting in Vienna on Sunday, on the sidelines of their talks with Iran.

Israeli officials were not speaking of the conditions they would demand for a cease-fire, but among the ideas that have been discussed are the dismantling of the rocket capabilities inside Gaza, similar to the manner in which the chemical weapons were dismantled in Syria; developing a mechanism to enforce the cease-fire; and a restoration of Palestinian Authority – not Hamas – control over the area.

Diplomatic officials said Israel was in contact with third parties about the possibilities but would not provide concrete details. Turkey and Qatar have reportedly also put cease-fire proposals on the table, but these have been rejected by Israel.

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http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Israel-says-cease-fire-possible-only-if-it-ensures-long-term-quiet-362526

Say what? Oh, here allow me to translate: No cease fire. Israel will continue to bomb and unleash ground attacks on Gaza. These demands are absurd on the face of it. A cease fire isn't about long term peace and Israel deciding who governs is obviously a non-starter. It's bullshit.

[cali]

1. more from this article

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On Friday, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said the situation in Gaza was a stark reminder of the need for Israel to hold on to territory for security purposes.

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In a brief press conference he held just before Shabbat, Netanyahu said the terror kingdom that Hamas had set up in Gaza – where there are not only thousands of rockets, but also well over a thousand tunnels – will not be allowed to be replicated in the West Bank.

“We need to understand one fact: We are living in a Middle East that is being taken over by radical Islam, leading to the collapse of a number of counties and [these Islamists] knocking on our doors both in the North and the South. I say we cannot allow a situation where we get Gaza in Judea and Samaria,” the prime minister stated.

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Israel has no interest in an equable peace. They are seizing this time as one to crush the Palestinians. It won't work. History tells us that.

[Rapillion]

2. Shame on the US

Its politicians mouth sanctimonious platitudes, declaring unswerving support for Israel. Then they provide billions in arms, loans, grants and so on.

There is no countervailing force to Israel power anywhere on the horizon, so Israel can do pretty much whatever it wants, whenever it wants.

Excellent post, btw.

[PCIntern]

3. THey should be giving the money to Hamas, right?

Because that is who would take possession of it if given to the PA. Ask yourself: where did all the money sent to Arafat go? It sure as hell wasn't used to feed, house, and clothe his followers, was it?

He died a fabulously wealthy man. I wonder if they have yet found all his accounts.

[Rapillion]

5. No

And hello to you too.

The OP was about Israel's refusal to agree to a cease fire and I was pointing out that the US's unqualified support contributes to that refusal.

You want to discuss Arafat, who has been dead for ten years, and how he enriched himself. That seems like a diversion.

[geek tragedy]

6. So you would support Abbas dissolving the PA and reverting responsibility

for the provision of basic civil services to the occupying power, then?

[shira]

4. Imagine you're in Israel, yr family & kids running to bomb shelters....

...for the past decade after thousands of Hamas rockets.

Let's see whether or not you want just another short term ceasefire so that Hamas can continue taking shots at you next week or next month....or whether you want Hamas capabilities ended once and for all.

What do you think you'd want?

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What would Americans want if Mexico unleashed over 10,000 rockets into southwestern states? What would the US do in response?

I'd appreciate a real answer to that one.

[geek tragedy]

7. I would want an actual peace process not a land grab by Israel. nt

[shira]

8. That's not an answer to > 10,000 rockets.

Hamas is not firing at Israel in order to bring about a peaceful 2 state resolution.

Deal with reality.

[WatermelonRat]

9. A short term cease fire just kicks the can down the road.

What's the point if things just flare up again in a few years, and then again a few years after that?

[Fozzledick]

10. Dupe

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113468028

Besides, Hamas' idea of a "cease fire" to to temporarily slow down to two or three rocket attacks a day.